oh, PUH-LEEZE!

epoch has always been gay friendly - i've worked with them on and off. they were there for our first attempts at gay paysites - around 1998 - and they are there today. they've always been there for gay events, have been very supportive and cool in every way. rand from epoch has been a member of this board for 3 years, btw - not exactly brand new to the gay scene or this board.

sam, i've had plenty of problems over the years with ccbill AND epoch because in real life, things go wrong. but these 2 companies have been outstanding in getting issues most issues resolved quickly. you haven't tried to talk to anyone else there yet, so you have no idea how this will end up.