sites in larger programs :(

[Dzinerbear]

sure, you get access to the other sites, so you do get a lot of content, but if you wanted content in the niche you joined for, you're out of luck.

This is a big problem I've always had with the conglomerates. They create a tour of women shoving Coke bottles up their hoo-haws and somewhere on the tour it screams, "1000s of pics," which implies there are thousands of pics of women shoving Coke bottles up their hoo-haws. And of course there aren't.

I think this kind of behaviour only breeds distrust amongst surfers and makes them less willing to pull out their credit cards, which of course is why I believe the conglomerates also have to bombard surfers with pop-ups and exit consoles.

My traffic's never done well with these kinds of sites and I imagine this is one the reasons why. Surfers become educated on the lay of the land.

Michael

[Lee]

Its often easier (and significantly cheaper) for those companies with hundreds of sites to just to fill the members area with plugins, i mean, would you rather pay upwards of $50 a set for 50-100 pics or, lease a plugin for one month with a couple of thousands pics in it for the same $50?

I know which one i would rather do, especially if im paying out $35 per signup.

The programs i really dislike, are those that have both PPS and Revshare and use the exact same members area for both business models :eek:

Regards,

Lee

[basschick]

lee, most of these sites were far from "filled up" with anything. i know many plugins that would have fit the niches of these sites, but they didn't even use aebn.

like i said, several of the sites had either NO video plugins in the niche at all or no picture plugins at all - i mean, at all.

so for example, an interracial site would have NO interracial video feeds - leased or otherwise. just none there.

[tombarr]

Many of these large webmaster programs are the same..i have problem with sites that claim one thing in the tour to sell it, and then have nothing near what they claim in the pitch in their members area. platinum bucks is one...gay sites that share common members areas using niche specific "feeder" sites to channel signups to that members area... It takes away from my sales from a site we spend considerable money and time maintaining and shooting content for.... it takes away credibility from those in the industry that run honest members areas that match what their sales tour says they have.... and "they" are many times straight companies just trying to capitalize on the gay dollar who will not hesitate to slander our lifestyle on other boards and tell their jokes about us in their parties, but will surely be happy to take our membership money, and our affiliate traffic, all the while laughing at us all the way to the bank. And for those gay companies that own these type of deceptive sites...shame on you.

and I think that responsible sites should take a stand and not promote these sites by ad revenues, or by affiliate sales as it does nothing but perpertuate the problem, telling the errant company that what they are doing is okay, as long as I get paid for promoting your lie...we claim that there should be ethics in our business when it comes to other areas of the adult business, and I think it is time we hold this segment of the business to the truth in advertising ethic as well.

maybe i am stepping on toes here and some won't like this response but until we tell them we won't promote it, they will keep pushing it at us.

[basschick]

hey, they do the same thing with str8 sites - they teach the surfers that porn sites cannot be trusted. that CAN'T be a good thing for our industry...

[dalimili]

My point exactly, TopBucks is one of the biggest sponsors on most of tgps and on many, many hundreds other gay sites... so you can imagine how many people pulled their cc's out to discover they've been ripped off.

And promoting a sponsor that pays you $35 and not caring what your surfers got for their money and if they are going to trust another gay site to pull their credit card out is just lame money making shite...

Especially when there are so many quality gay sponsors that do not deal also with a straight side of the porn, but instead invest their time and money in pleasing gay surfers

TopBucks is shit. Total piece of shit that delivers nothing close to what a gay membership site should be, so it's no wonder they offer all their 16 "gay" sites with your membership. Because they are all the same! Same content, same straight feeds, same pictures, and so much straight porn that a gay surfer has no clue what to do with it.