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    Just wait until the EU puts sanctions on the US for not handing it over.

    US developed and deployed it, and the world jumped on.

    Nothing is stopping the EU from creating their own internet and keeping 100% control over it.
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    actually it will be possible since decisions will be made by governments as opposed to having the ICANN board members do it, who for the most part are independant of government influences


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    something else to mention - a lot of international web traffic goes over Level3's global network. I think UUNet/WorldCom/MCI are another one who have a global network as well


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    Quote Originally Posted by jIgG
    something else to mention - a lot of international web traffic goes over Level3's global network. I think UUNet/WorldCom/MCI are another one who have a global network as well
    I'm really starting to wonder about America giving it's inventions to the world at this point.

    Need I mention the telephone was an American invention?

    Imagine if America was like China in the way it closes the doors to the outside world. Imagine only America having phones, cars, computers, internet. Where would the rest of the world be?

    America is a land of immigrants.. we all come from somewhere else in the world, but we come to America to work towards common goals and ideals. What we create belongs to us. Like what the British create belong to them, the Irish, Japanese, etc. etc. Pretty simple really.


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    Well, when reading your posts, I noticed the information is quite false, it's not EU who tries to get shared Internet control, it is THE REST OF THE WORLD. Eu simply changed his position, not supporting US anymore.
    If you need true information about it, just search for "EU Icann" in google news.
    And the "shared control" means control under UN which gets most countries, not US-EU control:
    http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index...ge=1&pagePos=3

    I think this is quite legitimate, since it is, for one country, the control of the network inside this country (computers, cables, infrastructures, etc).

    When I read some reactions, that makes me think some people forgot how humankind grew and is developping.

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    I'm really starting to wonder about America giving it's inventions to the world at this point.
    Need I mention the telephone was an American invention?
    So to your opinion, US should not have the right to use paper because Chinese invented it?
    What about TV? Don't u think also that EU should control US TV networks, since it was invented by them?

    It started on our land, our satellites, our infrastructure, our people made it, it was our project, our idea, it's ours, not anyone elses.
    Or for a closer example of communication networks: postal networks. You're ot happy that US take it from someone else? You think it should have been controled by the government from who it started first? (probably UK?)
    With what u said, British people could say exactly the same: "our people made it, it was our project, our idea, it's ours, not anyone elses" no?
    Personaly, it seems to me so selfish!

    I think that intenet network will have the same organisation: each country will be regulating its own network, but there will be an international harmonization for it to work well between countries.

    So point is not to change anything on how US deal with US web, but how one country can deal with his own web, so the US shouldn't care about it.


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    Déjà vu

    The E.U. can not even decide on who they want to play with, yet they think they can handle 'the net' ... LOL & a big PUHLEEZ!

    Worry about what you already have on your plate and when you have eaten all your peas ... MAYBE it will be considered (NOT!).

    But ofcourse the anti-americans & Bush haters will step away from the baseboards far enough to open their mouths and state how the ever so evil U.S.A. is already trying to control the world and blah blah Art Bell ... blah blah conspiracy ... blah blah The Backroom Boys Club (or what ever the conspiracy freaks, such as the chub M.Moore, are calling them this week).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Axel
    I think that intenet network will have the same organisation: each country will be regulating its own network, but there will be an international harmonization for it to work well between countries.

    So point is not to change anything on how US deal with US web, but how one country can deal with his own web, so the US shouldn't care about it.
    Yes we agree.

    I'm glad you understand that it doesn't make sense for America to give control of our internal infrastructure, and internet, to a world body, just like the EU doesn't want us to have control of their structure.

    Regarding modern television, it was invented by Vladimir Kosma Zworykin ( a Russian born American ) and Philo Taylor Farnsworth ( a Utah farm boy ) , as was the first television camera. SOURCE and no I don't think Americans created everything and the world owes us :high:

    You just have to wonder at what point during invention is it the inventors right to give it to the world, or the worlds right to take it away. If the internet had a copyright, America could charge for anyone who uses it.

    It will be interesting how this all works out as American corporations have started copy writing drugs, genes, and medical procedures, to protect what we've created, as have other countries.


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    The internet is headed towards segregation anyway. The true world wide web that we know today will not exist in 15 years.

    As more and more people get online around the world, the more we are going to see mirroring of what happened here in the US. The internet was the wild west, and users liked that. Then shit hit the fan when ma and pa got online and become offended at how current members where using a tool with potential for clean, wholesome use.

    It was and still is two sets of standards and morals butting heads.

    You look at this from a world wide perspective, and you'll see why it's vital for the US to retain total control of what is ours.

    Make other countries around the world create their own intranets, and then we'll turn ours into a US-only intranet also. That's exactly what I see happening over the next 15 years.

    Of course, the world wide web will still exist right alongside this. Maybe in the form of a more advanced internet come then. But it will give countries the opportunity to regulate their own intranets, and citizens won't have to worry about being offended by someone else in another country unless they choose to get on the www... which could be regulated by the UN at that point.

    .com and .net would be worldwide, and country code extensions would be limited to those in that country.

    I really think this is going to all play out in a similar manner over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt 26z
    Just wait until the EU puts sanctions on the US for not handing it over.
    Yeah exactly it's like a carjacker fining you for not handing over your car LOL

    They can build their own internet... the structure is there.. but by closing themselves off from the American dollar online, it wouldn't be worth it to them.

    One thing that sucks about being American.. people hate you, until they want something from you, they get it, then hate you again. It's real hard for me to understand. Living overseas over 3 years now and I still don't understand this mentality completely.

    It's like people want to be dependant on you, but independent.

    I think countries should be independent, do their own thing, have their own identity, culture, etc. and not depend on other nations for so much. But when they do this they fall behind technologically, etc.

    Being Americans we opened the internet to the world without condition, restrictions, fees, tariffs, etc. That wasn't good enough... now they want to take it from us.. ridiculous.


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