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    The most important thing is to make things as professional as possible.

    Forms, clinical terms (don't say "jack off" say "Masturbate to ejaculation"), and phone interviews. you need photos. You NEVER fuck the model no matter how hot you think they are, no matter how much they might want to.

    anyone who hums and has about anything isn't serious and isn't going to show. If they're hung over or look like they're tweaking in the interview, they're probably not going to show and they're gonna perform badly if they do.

    No, you cannot wear a mask, yes, you have to show your cock (it's porn for fuck's sake), yes, your friends are going to see it. Yes, you have to have a good body, and no, you cannot be the fluffer.

    There's a guy who calls almost every night and leaves a message on the ansering machine asking if he can be the fluffer. I finally called him back, told him to stay away from the phone when he was drunk and horny and that nobody uses fluffers anymore. He still calls, mind you, but it's now just kinda funny.

    Anyone who expresses a fear that their family is going to find out probably won't show, and if they do, they'll be calling you a week after it goes up begging you to take it down.

    The best bet, I've found, is to not recruit yourself, but to hire someone specifically for the purpose. It gives the whole thing a professional feel, that the guys are more likely to take things seriously.
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    My Two Cents....

    First time models are flakes...no matter what part of the country your in! My favorite is when you advertise for guys 18-25 and you have a guy that is 45 years old trying to apply and then they tell you "but I look 21!" (yeah! and I'm the pope!).

    What seems to work with us is that you should get into the practice of making sure you recieve a picture and contact information from the potential model first, then set up a phone interview with that particular talent, in the phone interview we ask if they have experience or not. If they say they have experience, we ask them which studios have they worked for before and we kind of feel out there mood on the phone. Once we feel that the phone interview went well, we schedule them into our office for a interview. Make sure that you stay and keep professional when interviewing them on the phone and meeting them for the first time in person. When you schedule a time for the interview, you must call them back that morning and remind them they have an interview. If you don't call them back 9-10 times they will never show up for the interview (phone and email communication is the key) if they don't answer the phone or you leave a message and you don't get a confirmation this means they have changed there minds and decided NOT to do the inteview and are not interested in filming. This saves you time and the inconveinance that a potential model "flaked" on you. We know the model is series when we call them back to confirm there interview, they answer the phone, confirm directions and time and then 9-10 times they show up and we end up using that model.

    There are always going to be "flakes" there is always going to be the persons that requests "masks" or "never shows up" or "thinks they look 21 when they are really 45 and really look 55". Its part of the business and with time you develop a thick skin for this type of situation.

    Our problem here in South Florida is we either have a "dry spell" and NO models apply or all the ugly ones only apply or its "Feast" we get the hottest models applying all at once. We don't get a steady flow of models interviewing.

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    I get the same problem here with applicants for our webcam houses, we use a 25 question questionaire which helps weed out teh flakes, someone who fills it out fully wil have spent at least 30-45 mins on it and will hopefully show they are somewhat serious. Even so we get a lot of people who then dont call us back , if we do talk to them we normally spend about an hour on the phone with them , then if we scredule a 3 day interview at the house so we get to see them and they get to see us. probally 60 - 70 % of people scedule then dont show up.

    of course we are offering them a 6 months contract so we have to check them out thoughrally.
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    hey, i'm shooting NON-nude and still have problems.

    some guys don't show up, which i hate because i'm renting a studio by the hour. no big deal but it gets worse fast!

    i have guys who answer my ad for muscular men, and they send pics of when they were bodybuilders, only when they show up, they're literally 40 pounds lighter. one guy was actually skinny. another was fat - not fat over muscle, but just fat and no muscle.

    then there was a guy who wouldn't wear speedos or posing trunks because they made him "look gay" - like any bodybuilding or 4women mag wouldn't also have him pose in something tight. or the two different guys who showed up after my extensive "what to wear" email without any shorts of any kind, and one of them has superb lower body devopment which i saw when i first approached him at the gym so it made no sense.

    one guy came all the way to the shoot to let us know he was afraid to model in case the pics got out. considering that this is a non nude site with no sexual language, i couldn't see the problem, but i don't want to convince anyone to do anything that makes them uncomfortable.

    models - they drive ya nutz, but without them you have no site.


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    A lot of things here sound familiar.

    My problems with models pretty much ended when

    A) I got an office

    B) I hired 3 girls to work in my office that do their job extremely well.

    To reiterate other points that eliminated 95% of problems for me:

    1) Keep things professional. Nothing turns a model off more then a guy salivating while they answer questions about what they'll do in videos.

    2) over schedule your shoots. If they all show.. someone will have to wait, or join in another video, that's just the way it is. Better them then you. (as far as waiting) :-)

    3) Keep communication open leading up to shoots, the day of the shoot, and after the shoot.

    4) If you don't over schedule have a backup model you can rely on. It's better to have more content of the same model then lose time/money on a location with no model to shoot.

    Tombarr... You might be experiencing what I experienced a while back here in Australia... your local competition trying to fuck with your business by sending their guys in and scheduling appointments to not show up. Believe it or not there are people in our business who think there aren't enough hot men to go around and will goto extremes to fuck with your business... but follow the above steps and you'll be removed from that stress. :pimp:


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    No one has mentioned the problem of over estimation of dick size. We were shooting solo guys for a big dick site. I was amazed that at the number of guys who lied about the size of their dicks. We were looking for anything over seven inches. I just didn't understand the lying. I mean guy, you gotta take it out and show it to us when you get here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by basement
    No one has mentioned the problem of over estimation of dick size. We were shooting solo guys for a big dick site. I was amazed that at the number of guys who lied about the size of their dicks. We were looking for anything over seven inches. I just didn't understand the lying. I mean guy, you gotta take it out and show it to us when you get here.

    They're probably deluded about how hot they are and they think, "He'll be blinded by how attractive I am and forget about my dick size completely!"

    I tried to get a photo shoot off the ground last year for a Web site I was looking into launching just before I got the call to join AVN Online. I had a buddy of mine all lined up to do the shoot, and when I called him to confirm, I got a message and he never called me back, even when I left a second message. Now every time I see him and he says, "I totally wanna do that shoot," I just change the subject and talk about something else, or I excuse myself completely.

    I'm pretty much the same way with friends as well. If you flake on me and you don't call or have a valid excuse, I write you off and have no more need for you. As I get older, it becomes SOOOO much easier to lose the drama and let go of flaky people.

    I always say, "Flakes are for cereal, not relationships or business."
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    I've actually built into our annual budget the waste involved with models. Last year I believe I bought plane tickets for perhaps 4 or 5 guys who failed to show. They also didn't bother to call to cancel. I've decided it is part of the cost of working with a younger crowd who, well, are young.

    Another cost you need to build in, in addition to wasted airfare, is booking more guys than you may need for a scene. I learned that the hard way when I flew 2 guys to a scene last year and only one showed. As we were in the middle of nowhere, finding a replacement on such short notice was impossible. So I paid the guy who showed and that was that.

    What I personally think would be very helpful to producers such as ourselves: a message board where we can post -- for our eyes only -- our experiences with guys. Spot the flakes this way by essentially creating a database of flakes. Much in the same way male4malescorts.com has created a database of no-show escorts, we could do the same for models we were with (or wanted to work with, at least). I'm sure many of us would be reluctant to share the good news about great new models we've discovered, but that isn't always the case. Even if such a database were limited to only listing the flakes, it would be worth it. Imagine if we could tell a model I'm putting you on the black list and you'll never work in this industry again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by basement
    No one has mentioned the problem of over estimation of dick size. We were shooting solo guys for a big dick site. I was amazed that at the number of guys who lied about the size of their dicks.
    LOL we had that problem when we were looking for DILF models the other thing we ran in to was during the auditions, a couple of the guys didnt want to get their dicks out, i mean, whats that about? You want to do a porn shoot but, when asked to show your goods you refuse?!?

    Needless to say, they never got a job LOL

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