Need a couple of volunteers - Race riots in France

[Paco]

well, the French are well known for their shady dealings, so a cover-up would not surprise me, however I've been listening to the news for the last 10-days and one thing is clear, a great many of the so called victims are the ones victimizing and committing atrocities against themselves. They boldly display their trophies (stolen goods such a cell phones, PDAs, jewellery etc). One decided to share a copy of a video he has of a Chetchnian beheading a Russian with a butcher knife (yah, I am sure there was a 'viable' reason for that action).
Also, with the amount of comments against Jewish person, and thumbing-up the tube bombings does not help their so-called cause.

It is plain to see that they are pissed that they were moved from Morocco, and will make all others pay.

I'd still like to know why the youths ran from the check point.

[claudio]

Until last night 3'500 cars have been set on fire and uncountable stores, supermarkets, schools and collages (because these are visited by the "rich") and official buildings have been destoyed or partially.

What many French say is that they should expulse all that "crap". Please remark that I wrote "crap in quotes".
And this is there only solution and their concern is only who is paying all the destroyed cars.

Fact is those people primarily from Algeria and Marroco live all in big cities escpecially in Paris in the outer circle and there in veritable ghettos, in rabbit hutches, what in other countries of Europe does not exist.

The French government neglected to anything for those people since three (3) generations. Since the ww3. Although they are French with passport. There was no program to integrate them and find work for them.
Shame on France.

I'm citizen of a neighbor of France but have a house in this country which I love very much. (But in a calmer region than Hamilton) Burgundy which is very countryside. Here we had only about 10 cars burning. In Dijon and Lons and something in Chalôn, but that is detail.

Claudio

Hamilton: hope you have your camera replaced. It is a shame. They would do the same with the press...

[Hamilton Steele]

Claudio

Hamilton: hope you have your camera replaced. It is a shame. They would do the same with the press...

No they aren't going to replace my camera.
And this is my last response to this thread.
I have nothing more to say.

[jIgG]

1st generation immigrants don't integrate because they don't want to.
Most don't want to.

Hardcore muslims don't want to integrate because they think it destroys their culture. Like women having too many rights, men not being in control, etc.
See what they're trying to do in the Netherlands.

2nd generations, those born in the respective country to immigrant parents, assimilate the culture because that's what they're growing up with.

Here in South Florida young latinos are very americanised, they watch more english-language TV, while their parents watch almost exclusively Spanish-language stations.

You also have immigrants who congregate in their own communities because it reminds them of home, they want to speak their own language for the same reason and when you have that you don't really feel the need to fit in with the locals. Which of course backfires

[desslock]

Well I watched FOXnews and the Newshour w/Jim Lehrer tonight, and they were pretty specific in their news reports that the rioters were typically young second generation immigrants, and most speak French. The youth speak of alienation and their treatment as second class citizens.

I am also reminded of just two years ago when over 10,000 people in France died from the heat, a great many were elderly and left to die alone at home.

France should probably reasses the consequences of the welfare state that exists there. A 35-hour workweek is probably hunky dory if you have a unionized job from which you can't get fired, but if you are not part of that elite, perhaps that unemployed individual could feel an "alienation" from the the system which is structurally built to disallow them from entering.

Their problem is further complicated because their pension systems are running out of money, and their working population is not increasing, so they need immigrants.

Steve