25yr Old Cures HIV Naturally

[joneze]

If he really did have it, hopefully science can benefit from his actions.

[Slade]

However, he won't go back in for further testing.
Doesn't that make anyone just a tad suspicious?

[Lee]

However, he won't go back in for further testing.
Doesn't that make anyone just a tad suspicious?

Where did you find that out?

Certainly seems to add to the train of thought its all BS.

Regards,

Lee

[CorbinFisher_BD]

However, he won't go back in for further testing.
Doesn't that make anyone just a tad suspicious?

Well he'd already been tested a number of times by his doctor and the results seem quite verified and certain, according the numerous media outlets that have reported this story.

So why should he keep goin back? Let the man live his life.

What do they wanna do? Keep testing him over and over and over again a 100 times til a (potentially false) positive result comes back and they can say "A HAH! Gotcha!!! Please return to your regularly scheduled programming".

HIV tests are much more likely to yield a false positive than a false negative (albeit slim chances on either) so if he's had numerous consecutive negative results verified by the doctors and labs that conducted them - which is what seems to be the case - then why should he need to keep gettin retested?

[Lee]

then why should he need to keep gettin retested?

I would have thought knowing one way or another if you have HIV was the only reason needed myself.

If not for his sake, for the sake of those around him who could, potentially become infected should he cut himself, not to mention the sexual implications.

Regards,

Lee

[CorbinFisher_BD]

I would have thought knowing one way or another if you have HIV was the only reason needed myself.

If not for his sake, for the sake of those around him who could, potentially become infected should he cut himself, not to mention the sexual implications.

Regards,

Lee

Well I think the cases reported in the medical literature of people being infected through things like cuts can be counted on 2 hands, so that's not a real concern.

As far as otherwise goes, the tests are designed to be over-sensitive. "Better safe than sorry", in other words. They're designed to be over-reactive so as to assure that if there are antibodies to the virus there, the test will show it. On the flip side, it makes for the potential of cross-reactivity - which is to say that non HIV-related factors might yield "false positive" results.

So again, with more than one negative result there's a pretty damn good chance he's clear of HIV-antibodies. This could be because the first test he got was a false positive or because he's some medical anomoly and truly has ridded himself of infection. He's actually not the first documented case of this having happened. It's rare, but not entirely unheard of.

[EonFilms_Rocky]

I was diagnosed as positive by a doctor during a hepatitis test. I always practice safe sex, so I could not beleive it. After walking around San Diego crying and just looking at the trees, I decided to get a second opinion.

I went to a hematologist and had extensice bloodwork done. As it turne dout, I was mis-diagnosed. I have an ailment called "Gilbert's Disease"... which means I have to eat or my skin and eyes turn yellow. It's a form of jaundice I have had since I was a baby. It's completely harmless and non-contagious.

So yeah, he may have been mis-diagnosed.

Rocky

[DonMike]

I used to work for a guy (years ago, not in this industry) who had something similar happen to him. He was diagnosed positive by one doctor and then negative by another. He decided to just live life as he always had and see what happened.

[Slade]

Well he'd already been tested a number of times by his doctor and the results seem quite verified and certain, according the numerous media outlets that have reported this story.

So why should he keep goin back? Let the man live his life.

What do they wanna do? Keep testing him over and over and over again a 100 times til a (potentially false) positive result comes back and they can say "A HAH! Gotcha!!! Please return to your regularly scheduled programming".

HIV tests are much more likely to yield a false positive than a false negative (albeit slim chances on either) so if he's had numerous consecutive negative results verified by the doctors and labs that conducted them - which is what seems to be the case - then why should he need to keep gettin retested?

It's not a matter of NOT letting the guy live his life. It's just that when you are dealing with medical and scientific "facts" it is best to have it cross referenced by more than one doctor. And in a different article on the same subject, certain doctors (where he lives) had simply asked for a chance to study his blood to see if they could "find" anything unusual that could be helpful to other hiv+ folks..plus the doctors said it would help CONFIRM that has indeed hiv-. And he has said NO to ALL these doctors? Not even let ONE other doctor get the chance to see if you might have a "special gift" that would help tens of thousands of other people? Seems a little LESS "thankful" than he professes to be if he doesn't care to help in this manner. imho

[Matt 26z]

Clearly he got two false positives.

Does anyone know what the error rate is on lab tests?

[desslock]

BDbionic makes a good point that the HIV test is only a test for antibodies that your body creates in an HIV environment. It does not see the HIV virus at all. That's quite a bit of "connecting the dots" for what is deemed a receipt for a death sentence.

There is a lot about viruses modern science simply doesn't know. I wish they would simply acknowledge that. That is just not likely. Doctors instinctively pretend to know everything about everything. (for example, Howard Dean is a doctor)

Allergies have been really bad here the past few weeks. So i went and purchased Claritin. Well, it turns out Claritin only works on about 30% of people, and only for a limited amount of time. Well, gee wiz. How many of those thirty percent just started naturally fighting back the allergies? Is this a crappy drug, or are allergies as they interect with the immune system a complicated matter?

And should I bother to frown over the millions of scarce health care dollars
that have been spent on a allergy drug that is so ineffective overall? Can this be paralelled to AZT or other HIV drugs?

I bring that up because immune systems, personal health and viruses like HIV are potentially extremely complicated. I think our current system of medical analysis is prone to instant diagnosis and then instant solutions.

But then what is the difference between his body eradicating the HIV virus as opposed to him having the hiv virus but having no health problems ever?

Steve

[shaun]

No - this one is really interesting. It wasn't a false positive.... they did dna testing on the samples, and retested it using dna testing. I am pretty sure you cant get false results off of DNA testing.