Your Thoughts On Barebacking?

[gaybucks_chip]

I think the majority of *small* studios are doing bareback.

I think most of the major players still have some ethics.

[Squirt]

Here's how I look at it:

We setup the situation

We hire the models

We distribute the content

If you had a group of guys that wanted to put one bullet in a gun and have you film what happens as they pull the trigger, would you?

That's what you're doing when you film bareback. Period. Unless you test extensively before hand, and even then that's not safe.

People bareback for many reasons, but the main reason is that they're HIV positive already and have nothing to lose. Remember that.

[Huskyhunks]

I guess millions of gay men like seeing the "bang" because that's what they want and that's where the demand is. Go figure.

[MiamiB]

So pretent that what you don't see or can't find online doesn't happen in REAL life...PLEASE

IT DOES HAPPEN...

EVERY DAY IN EVERY CITY OF THE WORLD...

Lee

[MiamiB]

Oh Chip,

The "major" studios have "ethics" because the can still make money...wait until they can't and then you will find them shooting bareback videos every week my friend! They are in it for the MONEY just like we all are...BUSINESS!

There are no "ethics". That is like morals...who is to say what is ethical or moral...you...me...or GOD? No...

Lee

[basschick]

if money determines your ethics, they ain't ethics.

ethics are what keep you from stealing from your neighbor when he forgets to lock his door. i wouldn't, not even if i was 100% sure that i would never get caught and i was totally broke. that's ethics.

by the way, the way it's been explained to me, you are legally responsible if you knowingly put an hiv positive guy in that gangbang and someone comes out positive.

[MiamiB]

Oh right...so ethics prevent all of humans from cheating on our lovers...right...right...sorry so this stuff doesn't happen. Forgot some of you live in a perfect world. My BAD.

In my world people cheat on their lovers...people get STDS... and even speeding tickets!

Oh well, I guess I can sleep soundly tonight without locking my door knowing that my neighbor has ETHNICS!!

WHATEVER...

Lee

Living in the real world...not easy for adult. Take Care!! XOXO

[Squirt]

So pretent that what you don't see or can't find online doesn't happen in REAL life...PLEASE

IT DOES HAPPEN...

EVERY DAY IN EVERY CITY OF THE WORLD...

Yeah people contract HIV/AIDS every day that doesn't mean I want to be a part of it.

Being a responsible producer has nothing to do with pretending, it has to do with reality. If you feel "all the money" is in filming bareback you're wrong. The money is in quality content.

The reality is when you hook people up and pay them to have sex, you are a part of the equation. There is also a liability issue with any model that comes back and says they were depressed, or just broke up with their boyfriend, did bareback sex for X amount of money, and now have HIV. In case you haven't noticed, talent does sue the production company.

If you're gonna do it, you need to be very careful, if you're not, you will lose more money in the end then you make and you'll be a part of someone getting HIV.

[gaybucks_chip]

I guess millions of gay men like seeing the "bang" because that's what they want and that's where the demand is. Go figure.

There's a shitload of people that want to see child porn too. If it were legal, would you film that?

[MiamiB]

No, I would not. I stated that concenting adults were making these choices. Period.

They know the risks. Nothing is going to change by pretending it doesn't happen.

It still will happen.

Lee

Let ADULTS choose.

[Squirt]

There's a shitload of people that want to see child porn too. If it were legal, would you film that?

Well technically it is legal in other countries Chip... so according to MiamiB he'd do it.. because it's being done anyway :francais: Or if he's going the consenting adults route he'd say snuff films are his thing.. because it's going to happen anyway... unless by some strange miracle.. he has ETHICS and wouldn't do that..hhhmmmm

[Matt 26z]

If you are going to shoot bareback, it is my belief that the following two rules must be in play.....

1. Models should not be required to bareback to get the job.

2. They should not be paid less money if they choose not to.

This completely eliminates the possibility of models taking bareback jobs only because they can't find any other work.

If you stand by those two things, then all bareback models will have made a decision to bareback that didn't involve money. Which means they are either a longtime couple who has been barebacking for some time, or two random models who'd bareback anyway even if the camera wasn't there.

[MiamiB]

I made these remarks hours ago and I guess I pissed off a few people...

Reality might be stupid but high risk sex is going on right now as I type this and censoring it from the internet and websites is NOT going to STOP it! In fact, it might make those who are curious seek it out in REAL LIFE instead of being satisfied with seeing on a video or website.

They decided to attack me and my websites all because I entered into a topic and expressed thoughts that they did NOT agree with. Is that the way this forum is supposed to work?

Is that they way free speech is supposed to work? I think not.

I am not going to comment further except to say that it I am sure there are others who would love to voice their views but they know this will happen to them so why bother.

I for one will not bother again. Simply not worth it.

[Squirt]

If you are going to shoot bareback, it is my belief that the following two rules must be in play.....

1. Models should not be required to bareback to get the job.

2. They should not be paid less money if they choose not to.

This completely eliminates the possibility of models taking bareback jobs only because they can't find any other work.

If you stand by those two things, then all bareback models will have made a decision to bareback that didn't involve money. Which means they are either a longtime couple who has been barebacking for some time, or two random models who'd bareback anyway even if the camera wasn't there.

Matt they don't care about any rules. They believe that anything goes. Whatever it takes to pay their rent next week. Pretty sad

[BananaMan]

Many of the decisions we make in life are ethical ones. Just because it's "business" doesn't excuse anyone from the consequences of their actions. It's one thing for a couple to bareback and it is quite another for you to MAKE MONEY from that decision. The question for everyone in this industry to ask themselves is "Do I want to be a part of the solution to the HIV/AIDS epidemic or not?" Making bareback porn does not help.