I guess millions of gay men like seeing the "bang" because that's what they want and that's where the demand is. Go figure.
I guess millions of gay men like seeing the "bang" because that's what they want and that's where the demand is. Go figure.
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So pretent that what you don't see or can't find online doesn't happen in REAL life...PLEASE
IT DOES HAPPEN...
EVERY DAY IN EVERY CITY OF THE WORLD...
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Oh Chip,
The "major" studios have "ethics" because the can still make money...wait until they can't and then you will find them shooting bareback videos every week my friend! They are in it for the MONEY just like we all are...BUSINESS!
There are no "ethics". That is like morals...who is to say what is ethical or moral...you...me...or GOD? No...
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if money determines your ethics, they ain't ethics.
ethics are what keep you from stealing from your neighbor when he forgets to lock his door. i wouldn't, not even if i was 100% sure that i would never get caught and i was totally broke. that's ethics.
by the way, the way it's been explained to me, you are legally responsible if you knowingly put an hiv positive guy in that gangbang and someone comes out positive.
Oh right...so ethics prevent all of humans from cheating on our lovers...right...right...sorry so this stuff doesn't happen. Forgot some of you live in a perfect world. My BAD.
In my world people cheat on their lovers...people get STDS... and even speeding tickets!
Oh well, I guess I can sleep soundly tonight without locking my door knowing that my neighbor has ETHNICS!!
WHATEVER...
Lee
Living in the real world...not easy for adult. Take Care!! XOXO
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Your attitude sucks tonightOriginally Posted by MiamiB
You're living in fantasy land to think you can do anything in the world you want because it's being done anyway. How's that working for you?
Or do you think more along the lines of "If they're stupid enough to do it let them"? or is it "It's a tough cruel world. I need to do what I can to get what I want and fuck everyone else"? Poor you. Nobody cares so you don't care is that it? Now THAT is fucked up.
So how are you doing business with people? People lie in business all the time so I'll do it? Screw people over or get screwed is that it?
Fascinating
Your attitude sucks...bitch!
People also jump out of plans each day...and some of them will die. You want to make the unethical or illegal?
There are countless things that ADULTS do that are high risk and YES result in some deaths. That is LIFE and LIVING IT.
So is SEX...and barebacking. It might not be to smart if you want to really be safe...but neither is jumping out of a perfecty good airplane for the thrill of it.
So...
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well crystal is a gay issue. When you have 10% of population accounting for 50% of HIV and know that meth makes them do it bare even more, it is an issue.
I received an email from Gay Wide Maters, one of the topics being about bareback sex. So I "tuned in" to see what was being said. I am not surprised by what I have read - or rather I should say, by what I have NOT read.
No matter where these discussion are held - this forum or somewhere else - it is always about gays and what they should do, are expected to do, amd must do regarding sex. When straights have sex, does the guy wear a condom to prevent disease ? No, he goes "in" bareback, and out pops a baby 9 months later. If straights were to stop "barebacking" also, the mushhrooming population rate would drop dramactically - and, oh yes, capitalism would be in for a total collasp.
So, when you guys talk about profits and money and that is the ONLY reason why sex firms with guys barebacking are made, that they are immoral, etc.,etc., you are the kettle calling the pot black.
The bottom line is: straights can do what they want - sex without condoms, but gays cannot - because sex between straights produces babies which keeps the muti-trillion dollar economy world wide going full blast; but guys barebacking together cannot produce babies, and thus do not contribute to money making for the economy. If they, too, could make babies in the process of engaing in bareback sex, the media, the government, the health officials, would never have started the campaign against the so called "unsafe sex" practices (barebacking).
boyfunk - i have a lot of respect for you on this one. thanks for being you
i don't live in a perfect world. i've been raped more than once, and quite violently. i've been beaten, robbed, and unknowingly given herpes. but i don't rape people or rob them or give them herpes because of this. just because someone else does something to you is not justification for you to do it - either to them or to someone else.
whether my neighbors have ethics doesn't dictate MY ethics. i'm responsible for my own choices and decisions - whether my lover cheats on me has nothing to do with whether i cheat on my lover.
besides, if everyone took your attitude, the world would be an even worse place. it's the people who keep trying that keep it all from being a jungle.
Originally Posted by MiamiB
Yeah people contract HIV/AIDS every day that doesn't mean I want to be a part of it.Originally Posted by MiamiB
Being a responsible producer has nothing to do with pretending, it has to do with reality. If you feel "all the money" is in filming bareback you're wrong. The money is in quality content.
The reality is when you hook people up and pay them to have sex, you are a part of the equation. There is also a liability issue with any model that comes back and says they were depressed, or just broke up with their boyfriend, did bareback sex for X amount of money, and now have HIV. In case you haven't noticed, talent does sue the production company.
If you're gonna do it, you need to be very careful, if you're not, you will lose more money in the end then you make and you'll be a part of someone getting HIV.
Originally Posted by Huskyhunks
There's a shitload of people that want to see child porn too. If it were legal, would you film that?
No, I would not. I stated that concenting adults were making these choices. Period.
They know the risks. Nothing is going to change by pretending it doesn't happen.
It still will happen.
Lee
Let ADULTS choose.
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Well technically it is legal in other countries Chip... so according to MiamiB he'd do it.. because it's being done anyway :francais: Or if he's going the consenting adults route he'd say snuff films are his thing.. because it's going to happen anyway... unless by some strange miracle.. he has ETHICS and wouldn't do that..hhhmmmmOriginally Posted by boyfunk
If you are going to shoot bareback, it is my belief that the following two rules must be in play.....
1. Models should not be required to bareback to get the job.
2. They should not be paid less money if they choose not to.
This completely eliminates the possibility of models taking bareback jobs only because they can't find any other work.
If you stand by those two things, then all bareback models will have made a decision to bareback that didn't involve money. Which means they are either a longtime couple who has been barebacking for some time, or two random models who'd bareback anyway even if the camera wasn't there.
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