CCBill VISA Processing for Canadians

[BrianDN]

..., quite frankly, id rather slice my wrist open with a rusty spoon than use them for anything.

Hey Lee... Just curious: why are you put off by Verotel?

I've started a discussion on this topic before (as a Canadian webmaster) and Verotel didn't seem bad then. Has something changed (yikes)?

Ultimately, I decided to setup with Verotel. It took some time setting up (longer than expected), but so far, I have not experienced any problems. Touch wood, I don't have any complaints about Verotel.

Of course, CCBill had been my first choice, but what to do?

Hey Patti, I looked into the whole Nevada thing. According to CCBill, I still needed a princple (irrespective of the Nevada, LLC) so I did encounter that problem still. I didn't want to hand over full control of my account to a perfect stranger...

Am I missing something here that your Canadian freinds have done that I overlooked?

BrianDN

[Lee]

Brian,

I just dont like the type of sites they process for, pseudo CP sites, rape sites, etc. That doesnt exactly instill a whole load of confidence in them as a processor id trust my business with.

Regards,

Lee

[Lee]

For example, here is a story from December about how they were processing for a CP site..

http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/n...-4903259c.html

Here's a GFY link about the processing for beasty sites..

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ht=hans+burger

There was a thread on GWW a few months back about them processing for pseudo rape sites to (from what Squirt said after joining the site it was actual rape, sorry to mention you in this Squirt).

Regards,

Lee

[basschick]

verotel ticket club is not what i'd want to process with unless i had no choice. their support has been very bad for a lot of people i know, although eventually if you're persistant, they do get the questions answered.

BrianDN - basement is sick and off to bed. he said he'd stop by this thread later. in the meantime, why not ask the live help on incorporate.com your questions? i believe basement is his own principal, but he'll tell us when he wakes up.

[BrianDN]

Thanks Patti...

Yeah, I still need a secondary processor so I'll look into that further. I'm anxious to speak with basement! I guess we'll find out soon enough...

BrianDN

[basement]

I am Canadian with a Nevada LLC. I am with epoch not ccbill. I have never heard of requirement to have a priniciple. I have a resident agent in Nevada that costs me $200 a year through the company corporation.

[BrianDN]

Thanks for the info, Lee...

Basement, I'm going to look into this further. Maybe Epoch doesn't have that same requirement as CCBILL.

But I do remember CCBill stating very clearly to me that the main person on account (the principle) must be a resident of the US, with a valid address and IDs, etc. So, this led me to resort to using something like companiesinc.com and having them act as my 'resident agent' to satisfy CCBill's (actually, more accurately, VISA USA's) principle requirements for a true US resident. So, I could have paid that $200 yearly fee, but I just did not trust somebody whom I didn't know to have access to my account.

Does your resident agent have full access to your account at epoch? As in, are they listed as the primary person (or even at all) on your account with Epoch?

How long ago did you setup your account?

Thanks basement, I'll find out more!

BrianDN

[basschick]

BrianDN - your corporation is your u.s. principal. the point of getting a u.s. corporation is that the corporation IS a u.s. business entity - it's like the person that visa will do business with.

[BrianDN]

Hey Patti... Yes, you're right. And, that was no problem (getting a corporation as an ID). But CCBill (or, VISA I should say) wanted two pieces of ID. So, while one could originate from a US corporation, the other ID still had to come from an authentic US resident (somebody who could prove they actually lived in the US; say with a Driver's License), hence the need for a principle or resident agent like companies inc. Do you see what I mean?

There was no getting around this for them.

VISA USA has basically imposed these demands in order to prevent anyone except US residents to have the accounts setup with companies like CCBillUS. The same story applies with CCBillEU. I setup a corporation in the EU, I even had a a friend of mine who agreed to act as principle (he had a passport form a European Country), but because he lives in Canada he is technically not a resident of his country of citzenship, so they wouldn't let me use him as a principle. So, I was back to square one at that point (having to use the anonymous resident agent as my principle). Finally I just gave up and went with Verotel...


Brian