Replace 'Muslim' with 'Christian'.Originally Posted by Squirt
If a private company in the U.S printed pictures of Jesus in a less than flattering light, do you not think the Christian groups would all be up in arms about it?
Regards,
Lee
Replace 'Muslim' with 'Christian'.
If a private company in the U.S printed pictures of Jesus in a less than flattering light, do you not think the Christian groups would all be up in arms about it?
Regards,
Lee
"up in arms" perhaps, but not taking up arms! I don't quite think even the religious zealots in the USA would start burning embassies over a cartoon. Boycotts, protests, name calling, perhaps a little rioting, but surely not burning embassies, and calling for death to the artists.
Even if that is what their religious leader told them to do?
You might want to do some reading up on American history, specifically, the bible wars from the 19th century.
Granted it wasnt over a cartoon, more some text which was found in the bible.
Also, as little as 20 years ago, there was a HUGE movement in the US by the religious right where they actually did start burning down schools and colleges because they found some books to be ireligious, indecent and immoral.
Im not defending what these people are doing by any means but, at the same time, im also not defending the decision by the newspapers to run those cartoons, it was a bad judgement call and unfortunately, hindsight is 20/20.
Regards,
Lee
ha!... it happens all the time! just look at the exhibit of the virgin mary made out of piss and elephant shit!
to name just one example!
did the museum get burned down? was the curator threatened with beheading?
nah! people wrote letters! letters to the editor... to their congressman!
and that was end of the matter.
but not for muslims.... oh no... they like to dish it out but they certainly can't take it!:nowords:
Tom,"up in arms" perhaps, but not taking up arms! I don't quite think even the religious zealots in the USA would start burning embassies over a cartoon. Boycotts, protests, name calling, perhaps a little rioting, but surely not burning embassies, and calling for death to the artists.
They might not be up in arms now, but if we look to our history books their has certainly been plenty of blood spilled in the name of Christianity. And let us not forget that a Christian in charge of our country took the US to war in Iraq for false reasons, which has taken over 20,000 Iraqi lives (and 2,249 American lives to date).
Cheers,
D.
Lets also not forget the stuff that has been happening in Northern Ireland since the 70's protestants and catholics bombing and shooting each other.
That wasnt even over a cartoon, it was juts because 'they could' LOL
We so often point fingers at the Muslim and Arab world when it comes to terrorism but, in doing so, we often forget that there are other types of terrosist / religious and hate crimes going on everyday over much less than cartoons.
Regards,
Lee
I totally agree with you on this point.
Have muslims been suing the school districts in America so they women can wear their head scarf on religious grounds? They're doing it here in Australia and in Europe.
If you were a woman and went to a school in a muslim country, then sued the school for your right to NOT wear a head scarf on religious grounds, what do you think would happen? NOTHING, you wouldn't get that far, you'd be stoned the minute you were seen in public without a head scarf and/or physically removed from the streets until you submitted :groovy:
Muslim men, born and raised in Australia, have gone on televisions saying they will never live the way Austrlians do and called Australian men weak and Australian women sluts. Then there's rioting against Muslims and they act like they've done nothing wrong and are victims of racism.
I think the religious powers that be are preparing for World War III , a war based on religious ideals, their own self fulfilling Armageddon. When religions are using cartoons as an excuse for destruction you know things are way out of control.
Christians are no better, they just have a different way of getting what they want and voicing their opinion since they are currently "in power".
When I said "It's sad all these people on our planet with their Gods killing one another in a desperate attempt to show whos side God is on." I was referencing all religions, although I haven't heard of death in the name of Budah, but I could be wrong :high:
Since the recorded death of a man they called Jesus, the Jewish, Muslim, Catholic and Christian religious leaders have killed millions in his name.
Yeah, Buddhism is really the only religion I have any faith in. Visiting Buddhist temples and seeing how peaceful their culture is is truly the most beautiful thing about living in Asia (well, other then the men LOL)
.Christians are no better, they just have a different way of getting what they want and voicing their opinion since they are currently "in power".
When I said "It's sad all these people on our planet with their Gods killing one another in a desperate attempt to show whos side God is on." I was referencing all religions, although I haven't heard of death in the name of Budah, but I could be wrong
Since the recorded death of a man they called Jesus, the Jewish, Muslim, Catholic and Christian religious leaders have killed millions in his name
I agree the buddhist culture and spirituality is a great thing. Amazing how a belief system truly designed for peace and growth is the one that doesn't get much attention.
Remember before 911, in March 2001 when the Taliban blew up those 2,000-year-old Buddhist statues in the cliffs above Bamian? That's when I realized something was really wrong. Anyone blowing up Buddhist statues, of all things, has a seious axe to grind and is going for total domination.
I'm still in shock... rioting over a few cartoons :wacko:
For 10-years I suffered through a hypocrisy known as Roman Catholicism!
I've been saying this for decades, and will continue to do so... religion is a waste of time, is the main reason we have war and they will destroy this world.
So far (from what I've read and heard) two people have died because of mere drawings done in bad taste (something which they are also guilty of), of a 'person' whom some seem to think was a 'prophet'.
The damn followers of the Christian and Muslim/Islam creed have made innocent people (those that that do not follow their blind faith) suffer, for way too long and it will continue so long as they exist! The two are destroying this planet and are by far the biggest concern to humanity... not 'global warming', drugs and all the other false crusades.
oh pleuzz.... cut the drama. that's as bad as all the canadians crying about the Conservervatives being elected in Canada. Well, they took office today and the world hasn't cum to an end. women can still get abortions and gay men can still get married.
religion is what u make of it.
things start going bad when you give up your free will and allow others to make the decisions about what is good and bad for you.
that is what is known as a cult.
Uh nice try - of course I voted conservative, I live in Alberta (duh).
cult
1 : formal religious veneration
2 : a system of religious beliefs and ritual
Fundamentally, I agree with you on this. A lot of hatred has been fostered through the tenets of organized religion. I think, however, this is due more to the figureheads behind each religion than to the religion itself. It's why I choose not to participate in any kind of organized religion, but instead practice personal spirituality.
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Well, they may not have bombed Bali if the US didn't fund them and provide them with weapons to begin with. Anyways, I am definitely not trying to say the Muslims extremists are innocent, I'm just saying both sides are to blame. I believe violence provokes violence, so the longer we keep bombing them instead of trying to resolve things peacefuly, the longer there is gonna be wars. Which I think the Bush administration doesn't mind since they want to keep troops there indefinitely and are making lots of money off defense contracts.How do you describe the deliberate bombings of the discos in Bali back ... back before the Iraq war ... that was what exactly? This was before we "enraged them" right?
Do you mean to say that both al-Qaeda and the US/UK/Australian governments engage in terrorism?
What if a group of Muslims with identical attitudes towards the religious state of Iran overthrew and took control of the governments of the Philippines and Indonesia?
Steve
Cheers,
D.
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