I *think* Xstr8guy is referring to the feed bandwidth bill, like with AEBN...I imagine it would get pretty expensive if the only thing you had to offer was AEBN feeds and getting billed at their rates from the bandwidth.I would think hosting fees would be negligible. I mean if you are serving no content other than your tour, how much bandwith could you burn?
Hmm, yet another calculation to consider for what it'd cost to use them. I'd glossed over the additional BW costs above and beyond what the monthly fee would be.
Actually, I meant bandwidth to be in addition to the cost of the leased feeds. But you did remind me of a subtopic involving feeds.Originally Posted by dannyz
Is it more cost effective for a paysite owner to use feeds that charge by bandwidth useage or per member charges?
Frankly I think per member would be more cost effective as some of those guys can sure burn the bandwidth. THough I have to admit, I am not knowledgable about feeds and plugin, I got enough headaches trying to update a bloody newsletter or something.. :honest:
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I think feeds that charge by bandwidth are more fair then charging per member. I know that many of our members don't even look at the feeds since we give them so much other content, so for us paying per member would not be a good deal.Is it more cost effective for a paysite owner to use feeds that charge by bandwidth useage or per member charges?
I would say that it depends on how many members you have. For people just starting a site with little to no members it would probably be more cost effecient to pay for the bandwidth you use(per gig). For larger programs i would say that being charged by the member would be better because with high quality, updated feeds you will never have to pay the $2 a gig your members use.
Given how cheap bandwidth is, makes one wonder why the overage is so expensive...
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i had one paysite - a straight one - and we used hostedcontent as our entire movie collection. since you can link to each movie directly and use your own background, page layout, headers and footers, it worked great. at the time i did not know how to encode videos, so i found hostedcontent to be a real blessing.
i think one could pretty much do almost the same thing with feedsnow as long as they let you have multiple consoles.
as far as other feeds, i think these days your best bet unless you're planning to lease a LOT of them is to go with feeds that are entire sites. that way, you can call them bonus sites instead of feeds, and members seem happy about that.
Ok, must be a dense day for me, as I'm not following the multiple consoles concept here? You mean something that can be brought in like a page include for each niche?
Yea, I had a feeling full site "feeds" would be received/perceived differently if presented as bonus sites.
feedsnow lets you have only 4 videos per page or "console" as they call it. so it would take several to really build up a site. the good part is that you can choose which movies to put on each console - you could choose them by niche or have a "just added" page or anything you like.
it's really a shame you can't have more videos per page. that would make their feeds a real benefit to any site, and would make them more money.
exactly! if your plugin provider is charging overages change providers. You cantGiven how cheap bandwidth is, makes one wonder why the overage is so expensive...
track how much bandwidth is being used anyways so who's to say how much you really used.
Given how cheap bandwidth is, makes one wonder why the overage is so expensive...
For the same reason you can buy 1000 minutes of cell phone airtime for $40 and then you pay 40 cents a minute for overage... it's a profit center
We have several different servers, each with a large base bandwidth allocation, and we have our content split so that we don't run over on any one server. As the traffic increases, we can further split the traffic onto other servers. I just wish I could do that with my cell phone
One argument I haven't seen here is the issue of assets.
If you spend $12,000 a year on feeds, at the end of 5 years, you've spent $60,000 and have nothing to show for it.
If you spent the same $60,000 on buying exclusive content or paying models and shooting your own, you'd have between 50 and 200 sets of content that you own. The value of that intellectual property is a part of the net worth of your business, should you ever decide to sell it. If all you have is a domain name with a bunch of links and a monthly bandwidth bill, you won't have much, other than the traffic to the domain and whatever membership goodwill value to sell.
Couldn't the advent of feeds simply be that many are simply in a hurry to generate revenue, and are taking an easier road than shooting their own content? I would think someone would have to spend a lot of time shooting enough content to keep the same attention span that numerous feeds can deliver. :coffee:
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I understand what you're saying, but in a startup situation, I can see a couple hundred bucks a month for feeds buys a lot more movies the members can see than I could buy for the same $200 in real content. Eventually, membership revenue reinvested into actual on site content would be the better value, but at what point, if ever, do you then say no more feeds if you had them to begin with? Or does it then go into the "cost of doing business" column just like the hosting fees and studio production costs?
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