You may be a pornstar, and not even know it!

[djdez]

Um... Joe, isn't it illegal to film porn in a Las Vegas hotel room?

I know there has been speculation in the past brought up on this board. We called the Las Vegal filming commission to aquire a permit. We were advised that as long as we are not in a public area we were fine and did not require one.

Also, what I can tell you is that no fewer than 10 of the hotels staff including the food and beverage coordinator and event manager were well aware of what we were doing. In fact 2 or 3 including the in room dining manager attended as guests that evening. Further we specifically hire security directly from the hotel who stood outside the door and walked around the penthouse suite. I could virtually copy and paste the exact same thing from two years ago at the Mandalay Bay.

[CorbinFisher_BD]

Mark,
I made it a point to refer to parties beyond just the Q-Fest ones, because that was the only event billed as the photoshoot party. The Cybersocket parties (and I checked that movie on AEBN and saw plenty of content shot during the Cybersocket party) was not billed as or presented as a photoshoot party.

There was no suggestion to anyone attending those events that they ran the risk of ending up in a porn movie.

As for the Q-Fest ones, I know those are photoshoot parties and most people should be clearly aware filming will take place at the event. We didn't sponsor that event and I didn't really reference that one much in my post.

But even Joe at PrideBucks, the organizer of Q-Fest, says they make a concerted effort to limit and even prevent entirely anyone but contracted models from showing up in the content they use from that shoot.

I saw myself in a scene from this movie taken at the Cybersocket party (I knew it was the Cybersocket party because I could see our promotional material spread about the room and it's the Cybersocket parties we sponsored).

I was standing in a totally different room from the one the models were engaging in sexually explicit acts in. On the opposite side of the room. Yet there I was nonetheless. But because of where the cameraman was standing, you could see out the doorway of the bedroom he was in and in to a completely different room.

So... at a party that wasn't billed as a photoshoot or ever presented or promoted as such, are you saying that because some models decided to get wild and crazy in a room I wasn't even in, I should have left the business function my company was sponsoring so as to avoid appearing in a for-profit adult video production some attendees spontaneously decided to film in another room?

[LavenderLounge]

With the additional detail, I see your point now.

[collegeboyslive]

Hi all. I must first apologize for any inadvertent actions that has cause problems, the video was more a reality documentation of the cbl boys going to las versa and attending internext, 90% of the stuff on the dvd is around and outside internext, we do however show shots and stuff from within the parties. We apologize if you were caught on film in the background as we went around, we were mostly trying to focus on our guys.
We have asked aebn to remove the dvd and the sales on our site have been halted and we will be re editing the dvd starting tomorrow. I would like to use some footage from the party since it explains why they are there, so I am asking if you were there or have made it into the video and don’t want to be there, let me know and I will make personally sure you do not appear in there. I will also make sure no one is caught in a compromising position. Again although we have been doing the reality thing from the house for many years this was our first outing like this. So once again, sorry if we caused any problems.

zac

[CuriousOne]

This has been a policy of events hosted by Cybersocket from the very beginning:

Any reproduction, broadcast, or commercial use of any portion of the events, in whole or in part, in any form, without the express written consent of Cybersocket is strictly prohibited. Still photographs and video recordings may be taken by sponsors upon prior approval, and designated press photographers.

We never knowingly have live sex performances. Though we try to remedy any and all inappropriate behavior at these events, we are unable to monitor people at 100% of the time - we have allowed designated spaces to be free from constraint however, these suite parties in Las Vegas were not such spaces.


Sincerely,
Cybersocket Management

[JustBryce]

Another brilliant example of stupidity is the new "DaVinci Load" video which features a large picture of the Mona Lisa on the cover. I'm willing to guess that the producer of that film has no clue about intellectual property rights.

A bit of a hijack, but isn't the Mona Lisa in the public domain?

The painting is over 500 years old. I thought the maximum time a copyright could be enforced was 95 years and that all works created prior to copyright and patent law were in the public domain?

I'm legitimately curious.

[gaybucks_chip]

(a) well, I'm not an IP attorney, but my understanding was that, even with old paintings/photographs, there were certain IP rights that go beyond copyright (perhaps held by the owner of the painting or photograph.) I could be wrong on this, and if I am, I'd be delighted for someone to correct me.

(b) I wanted to offer an opinion on the Qfest thing. We were cosponsors of Qfest 2005, and it was our photographer who shot almost all of the video content. We worked with Joe and the rest of the Pridebucks crew, and even though there was clear understanding on the part of attendees, wemade an effort to exclude any identifiable images of people other than the actual models participating. In the later evening, those who not our models who were actively participating were all individually asked before our photographer shot video of them, and even so, in almost all cases, that footage wasn't used at all.

I've always found Pridebucks approach to everything they do to be completely professional and with forethought.

[CorbinFisher_BD]

Well I'm glad a number of people have come in to this thread to clarify things and especially that CBL has removed the video from AEBN and is re-editing it, as it was CBL's actions and their's alone that inspired my creating this thread and that I had a problem with.

So thanks to everyone for that.

[desslock]

Well. I guess the infamous Internext Las Vegas 2006 now has one more thing for us all to fondly ruminate about.....

Steve

[Dzinerbear]

This quote is from the press release:
"Webmasters won’t want to miss this party as there will be free content for the taking all night long. Just show up with your camera and click away so you’ll have loads of fresh pictures and videos to start off the new year."

Mark,

It's not a mountain, Brian has a legitimate point. And the above statement said nothing about "come to the party and be in a video."

In future, at these types of events, it might be a better idea to limit the action to the bedroom and put a sign above the door: "If you enter this room, you may become content."

Kudos to College Boys Live for pulling the video and doing a redit. It's the right thing to do.

Cheers,
Michael

[collegeboyslive]

Kudos to College Boys Live for pulling the video and doing a redit. It's the right thing to do.

Not a problem. we will also be running the re edit past people like morgan at cybersocket and various others, so this time we get it right

luckily, in the 3 hour video the parties do not make up the bulk of the video so editing shoulnt be to tedious or time consuming, maybe we need a GWW screening when its done

but can i keep the shot of Lee in a wig and a dress in ? PLEEEASE

[Harlan]

Mark,

It's not a mountain, Brian has a legitimate point. And the above statement said nothing about "come to the party and be in a video."

In future, at these types of events, it might be a better idea to limit the action to the bedroom and put a sign above the door: "If you enter this room, you may become content."

Kudos to College Boys Live for pulling the video and doing a redit. It's the right thing to do.

Cheers,
Michael

Hi Michael,

Like they say, its all about the details.

At the Q-fest Party, the action was indeed limited to one designated bedroom in the suite and even more so, the actual bed where the action took place was literally roped off to keep the crowd away and going one step further this year, it was even broadcast on the tv's throughout the suite so people didn't have to fight the crowds to see the show if they did not wish to shoot the content themselves.

The footage that inspired this thread where webmasters wound up as unknowing extras was not even taken in the "sin room" at all - but in the main area of the suite at both ours and the CyberSocket parties.

It would be sad if a "If you enter this room, you may become content." sign
would need to be hung at any webmaster function; after this thread and the excellent points made, I trust that won't be necessary.

[djdez]

I've always found Pridebucks approach to everything they do to be completely professional and with forethought.

Thanks Chip for the kind words!!! We feel the same way towards you and AJ!

[maxpower]

Fill free to record me in the background of any of your porn movies, I try not to do anything in public that, I would be that embarrassed about. Hell about every time I go out to a club they have some photographer take shots of me, normally I get a drink out of it but that about it. :pimp:

[CorbinFisher_BD]

I think that it'd be unfortunate if party organizers had to run around policing their own events and making sure everyone was behaving. It shouldn't be up to PrideBucks or Cybersocket or any other party organizer to have to obsess over assuring proper conduct. I'd hope that at a business function geared towards industry professionals, the attendees would take it upon themselves to have a clear idea as to what was and what was not appropriate, and what their gracious hosts may and may not appreciate.

But, again, I'm glad it's resolved and CBL pulled the stuff.

Thanks, everyone!