Why I don't like shooting porn with plots...

[gaybucks_chip]

Yup, actually there are about 10 minutes worth of bloopers, most of which are x-rated... so I didn't want to include them in the downloadable file... but they're on the DVD.

We're also in final discussions to add a very powerful short film, a story about a young guy remembering the night he contracted HIV, as a public service "extra" to our future DVDs.

It's perhaps a little risky/controversial, since it's sorta the opposite of what a porn video is supposed to do, but everyone that's seen the film has said it was very powerful and moving for them, and if it can serve as something that makes people think a little bit, then it's totally worth it.

[basschick]

i'd love to see it when things get worked out.

We're also in final discussions to add a very powerful short film, a story about a young guy remembering the night he contracted HIV, as a public service "extra" to our future DVDs.

It's perhaps a little risky/controversial, since it's sorta the opposite of what a porn video is supposed to do, but everyone that's seen the film has said it was very powerful and moving for them, and if it can serve as something that makes people think a little bit, then it's totally worth it.

[Billaboy]

That's such a cool idea and a great thing to do!

Please tell us when you'll have made your decision, I'd love to hear about what kind of feedback you'll get from it!!

oh and, out of curiosity, what did you have in mind when you shot it? Did you wanted to include it in the DVD all along or it was a side-projet you wanted to use for other purpose (i.e. for a film festival, such as Outfest)?

[gaybucks_chip]

oh and, out of curiosity, what did you have in mind when you shot it? Did you wanted to include it in the DVD all along or it was a side-projet you wanted to use for other purpose (i.e. for a film festival, such as Outfest)?

The short wasn't produced by us. It was made by a young filmmaker who I think is extraordinarily talented who is in his first year of film school. He was initially a little uncomfortable at the notion of his film (and his name) being associated with the porn industry, but we're going to include a short explanation in front of the film, and I think that it will both get the message out there and get him some additional exposure.

As soon as we have the deal inked, I'll put up a link to the film so y'all can see it.

[SLS]

That is a fantastic idea and a really great thing for your studio to do. I doubt viewers would appreciate it too much though, porn is an escape into fantasy, if they wanted the sad reality of a documentary they'd be watching one. I hope you share some of the feedback you get with us and I hope I'm proved way wrong.

About films with a "plot"; If the guys wouldn't be interesting without the plot, documentary style just being themselves, then no dialogue is going to help. It must be a problem with the hiring process.

We're also in final discussions to add a very powerful short film, a story about a young guy remembering the night he contracted HIV, as a public service "extra" to our future DVDs.

It's perhaps a little risky/controversial, since it's sorta the opposite of what a porn video is supposed to do, but everyone that's seen the film has said it was very powerful and moving for them, and if it can serve as something that makes people think a little bit, then it's totally worth it.

[A_DeAngelo]

We're also in final discussions to add a very powerful short film, a story about a young guy remembering the night he contracted HIV, as a public service "extra" to our future DVDs.

It's perhaps a little risky/controversial, since it's sorta the opposite of what a porn video is supposed to do, but everyone that's seen the film has said it was very powerful and moving for them, and if it can serve as something that makes people think a little bit, then it's totally worth it.

EXCELLENT! DO IT!

We are filming a "PSA" to include on our future DVDs along with our standard "disclaimer" ... However, our biggest problem is with all of our "feed theaters" who eliminate our "blue card - warning/disclaimer messages" from running in front of our scenes - I guess that the deal there is that the message re: STDs kinda puts a wet blanket on the "turn on" factor...

[gaybucks_chip]

EXCELLENT! DO IT!

However, our biggest problem is with all of our "feed theaters" who eliminate our "blue card - warning/disclaimer messages" from running in front of our scenes - I guess that the deal there is that the message re: STDs kinda puts a wet blanket on the "turn on" factor...

That is definitely a concern of ours... we don't shoot bareback, so we don't feel the need to put the disclaimer video in front of the content (it will be on the "extras" page), but I still find it rather annoying that a PPV provider feels they have the right to alter a copyrighted work essentially without discussing it first with the producer/director.

[A_DeAngelo]

Yes Boyfunk, I agree...

Theme, content aside, we devote time and energy to these details and feel that they reflect our overall intent and feeling...especially my titles and music tracks! - this is what separates us from others...

I guess that is why our Hard, Brick and Mortar DVD sales continue to remain strong and gradually build... just like muscles! People want all the good stuff that comes on a DVD.

When we go live with our very own theater, we will include everything!!! why not? (even the popcorn and sticky stuff on the floor!)

[collegeboyslive]

Chip, i WONDER where you got THAT idea from !

[gaybucks_chip]

No, no, Zak... this is totally different from the HIV video project we still want to do.

We had no input at all in the concept, shooting, or production of this film at all... it was a film school project, originally shot on 16mm film. I just found it on somebody's Myspace, tracked down the guy who made it, and have been in discussions with him for a couple of months.

When we get things pinned down, I'll put up a link to it, and I think everyone will understand. It's a simple, powerful, artistic piece that conveys a message and kind of leaves an imprint that stays with you.

[jIgG]

doesn't having a plot actually protect you if you get slammed with obsceinity by the feds?

[Marc]

Yup, actually there are about 10 minutes worth of bloopers, most of which are x-rated... so I didn't want to include them in the downloadable file... but they're on the DVD.

We're also in final discussions to add a very powerful short film, a story about a young guy remembering the night he contracted HIV, as a public service "extra" to our future DVDs.

It's perhaps a little risky/controversial, since it's sorta the opposite of what a porn video is supposed to do, but everyone that's seen the film has said it was very powerful and moving for them, and if it can serve as something that makes people think a little bit, then it's totally worth it.

excellent idea. Thats such a noble thing for that guy to do.
I dont think its a risky film at alll, I think your customers will seek out more of your videos as a way to say thank you for being responsible and getting a safe sex is hot sex message out there.

[EonFilms_Rocky]

I love the bloopers that result from filming a movie with a plot, and we happily include them on the movie. "Ashton's Eleven" had some great bloopers. "Field of Creams" had so many bloopers we actually had to sift through the footage to pick out the best ones! They were hilarious! I think it was 18 hours of video for a 2 hour movie.

As an artist, I cannot make a porn without a plot. I won't compromise my integrity as an artist and film maker simply to make a quick buck.

Wait until our new movie, "The Dicks of Hazzard" comes out later this year... you will see what I am talking about.

Here's the current cover (pre PhotoShop on Brent's hair):



I will always make movies with a plot.

Rocky

[SLS]

As an artist, I cannot make a porn without a plot. I won't compromise my integrity as an artist and film maker simply to make a quick buck.

I will always make movies with a plot.

Rocky

I don't think it's fair for you to say that. There are studios that just interview the men in their videos before the action starts, and I don't think they've comprimised their integrity, and I think the interviews can have more artistic value as a documentary than if the same guys were memorizing crappy dialogue and stupid facial expressions for "entertainment".

[basschick]

having a plot doesn't make something art. look at all the sitcoms and movies out there that have plots. some are as far from art as you can get.

i shoot videos without a plot and i'm proud to say that a couple of our last shoots ARE art - they are evocative, luminous. we made use of light to create a mood and to make things look beautiful, to show off the physiques of the models and even to play with light.

and i've seen some wonderful wonderful videos by many other people that didn't have plots but left you feeling not only horny but also a world of other things - and that's what art does.

As an artist, I cannot make a porn without a plot. I won't compromise my integrity as an artist and film maker simply to make a quick buck.