In my experience, TGP has:
1. the worst conversions
2. the worst customer retention
3. the largest amount of customers that chargeback and/or trade passwords
In my opinion starting out with a TGP would be the worst choice...
In my experience, TGP has:
1. the worst conversions
2. the worst customer retention
3. the largest amount of customers that chargeback and/or trade passwords
In my opinion starting out with a TGP would be the worst choice...
The worst conversion, yes. But that can be filtered. And TGP traffic does better with a trial. Conceringretention, I would recommend a PPS so the webmaster doesnt stress so much. Part 3 if a newbie uses a PPS model he doesnt warry as much about it. Though IF all he sends is charge backs, then he may have an issue.Originally Posted by dannyz
There are still SOME Tgp's out there that have traffic that can retain. But those tgps are not the ones that are just skimming like crazy. They built up bookmarkers.
One how does everyone know my name :eek:? 2 most of what people said did not disagree with what I said, if they are having problems with their bandwidth on TGP’s at first cutting into profits I think a GOOD free host could help in the learning curve while not making the go broke at the same time, would be a limited amount of them they could use but would get their feet wet. 3 of course this type of traffic is about the worst in the world, really to say much different is just argumentative.
No comment.
Hey Boston how about changing your name to Bean Boy :bush: Dont get mad was just a joke
Max,
Once again a thread turns fucking useless.
To bring it on track and answer your point about free hosts.
1. they are far and few between now.
2. They take you best ad spots.
3. They fuck with your international traffic and you don'e even know it.
4. You are not 2257 compiant unless the free host is a sponsor free host and owns the content.
5. If four is the case, chances are the tgp has all the content in hosted galleries anyways.
6. Why reccommend a newbie get banned from a tgp before he gets his first gallery us as most don't acceprt them.
7. I AM WRONG - YOU ARE RIGHT. So to all those trying to learn something listen to Max.
Max you are back on my ignore list. I thought it was unprifessional to do so. So I lifted you. But someone posts something to help a newbie and you give a reply that's half off topic and clearly shows that you have noot been posting to big tgp galleries that much on free hosts. And if you have please reveal which tgps accept whiche free hosts and which free hosts I am legal to use my own content on and still be 2257. And show me whiche free hosts doesnt fuck with internation traffic. Contribute your experience not your ignorance.
I gave a different view point than Lee but I backed it up with my experience. Unlike you that just throws shit out your ass. And a newbie should way in the different factors. Going boths routes can lead to disaster. The TGP route maybe faster. But fuck, I would rather know in a month with maybe a $200 bandwith bill and $100 in content if it wasn't for me than spend three months with a $90 bw bill (asuuming u are on a $30/ month plan) and dropping $300 in content figuring out the same thing. The other two months would give me time to try ebay or something else.
Well lets just see how right you are ok this site sucks and not the best free host “just the first one I saw” but lets just see how many people form overseas can not see it? http://www3.kinghost.com/gay/baa/ I am willing to bet only countries that I would probably block myself will not be able to see it. :thumbsup:
And how many tgp's will list a gallery on a free host with a fucking girl at the top. And IF you put your site in the Right category with the free host, you will get a guy banner at the top (the best spot to make a sale).
Max, you have only answered one of my questions. And still not really answered it with any facts whatsoever.
That site you gave has all stolen content, and even if it wasn't is not 2257 because the webmaster does not won the domain the content is on.
And what happens if I create a 100 sites on this freehost and then GMP decides to ban that free host, or linklists decide to (just as justusboys no longer does, just to name one of the biggest). Or the free host shuts down. A newbie webmaster is stuck with a bunch of sites that he either took the time to steal the content or actually purchase it that is totally useless.
And since this is a tgp/newbie thread list ALL the tgps that will accept galleries hosted on king host.
BTW, You as a paysite woner, I sure and hell hope this is not your site. The guy that runs allgayconetnt that this site has images from is a friend of mine and just got an email.
Great way to start and get more free porn out there.
I knew people that paid for their porn a lot, now they don't anymore, and I can't blame them really
I agree with the free tgp thing, and was excited about tgp2 (which bombed). Movie/reality sites with video really offer quality tgp porn now as well.
I use to like Link List traffic a lot. As a webmaster submiiting sites, but even link list have fallen into the tgp game to some extent and just offer a shitload of free porn.
As the links list evolve from what they use to be into the communities they are now, it's harder than ever to convert the traffic if you are a submitter.
I can't blame them as they realize a while ago that with new technolgy they can better capture the surfers dollar before they even hit a free site. And the surfers that actually hit a free site are not much better quality traffic than tgp.
Examples include the evolution of justusboys (and I admire the owners very musch when they had 1,000s and 1,000s of free exhibtions pics mostly to their evolving eye candy into what it is - a really clean tgp. To the site reviews, blog entries etc. What traffic finally hits the link list and goes out is mostly more people looking for free porn. Not much better than tgp traffic, as the chanes a surfer has been exposed to differnet forms of paysite upsells is immense. Good for the LL owner, a bit harder for the newbie webmasters.
Other Link Lists are doing this as well. It adds more to the bottom line of the LL owner.
Example. I was surfing my favorite LL and found a free site with a sponsor. Rather than join from the free site. I knew that gaydemon would have a review. So I went and read the review and joined from the review.
So, yes to paysite woner LL traffic is good. And in my cae of joining the conversions are probably good as well. But for the free site I visited. I lookaed at his pics, saw his sponsor, read a review from gaydemon and joined via the review.
What did that newbie webmaster get out of it? Nothing really?
Or if i really just want to get off, I could goto eyecandy and see enough seancody or corbin or whatever galleries and probably do the same. When cross referenced like that its so easy for the person just looking for free porn, even more easier in some ways than a tgp as the galleries for that site are all marked. Check out all eye candy for site xyz.
At least w/ tgp's it is a little more diffucult to find 20 galleries of site xyx all lined up.
Bottom line: limiting free porn was tried w/ tgp2 and failed. Now its not just tgp's but link list through there gallery sections that are offering the same free content found on TGP's. I understand that they have to maximize their traffic base to a model that makes them money. It's just harder for the newbie webmaster to make a sale. Instead of creating 5 sites for x amount of sales it may take 20 OR great skill in creating a traffic trap in your own network to filter the traffci through.
Who knows what it will be like two years from now.
BTW, I am not critcizing justusboys or gaydemon as they are two of my favorite sites. Just offering an opinion based on my traffic to these and others that they are fidning better ways to maxamize their traffic to sponsors befor it even hits a free site. Very sound business.
Even site like Hunkhunter that offer the awards for best sites that are posted everywhere make it harder to make a sale.
That's why my advice is think nice niche niche. It's the best way to make money.
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