John Travolta kissing a hot guy on the lips (pics) - is he Gay?

[XXXWriterDude]

Oh you're changing topic. Yeah if someone wants to be an actor and lie about who they really are to the world that is up to them. Hell I'd probably lie to the world for hundreds of millions of dollars too - that is what A-listers make these days over a carreer, and we are talking about A-listers.

Lots of people lie, cheat, steal etc. to get to the top. Actors are no different but you said "Anyway, I think it's funny to hear someone say "Who cares if John Travolta is gay?" Everyone cares. Celebrities in that league -- the A-listers league -- coming out would have a pretty big impact on how the world at large views gay people based on their "personas." See YOU are the one who puts A-list actors coming out on a pedastal as making "a pretty big impact on how the world at large views gay people".

I'm not putting them on a pedestal; I'm just recognizing how the REST of the country thinks. If Tom Cruise were to come out as gay -- or rather, if he had come out when people still respected him -- that would have had a huge impact on how lots of people in the mainstream viewed gay people. He's a huge international sex symbol for men and women. Every big, tough, macho buff guy who blows up buildings and gets the girl in the movies who came out would, by and large, have some kind of influence in how society views gay and lesbians.

However, as much as I think it would be AWESOME if Tom or John or whoever would come out of the closet, I don't think they have an obligation to do so. I don't judge them or look down at them for not doing so. I simply recognize that they have their own paths to walk, and their own choices to make. And to me, that's the end of it. All the best to them.

disagree. I'm not attacking them or their decission, but I don't feel their decision is a noble one, as I don't feel coming out after you've reached the top is noble either. Usually it's done out of desperation and to protect losses, or they've simply reached the top and have nothing to lose now.

Just like Ellen did. Just like Rosie did. Just like Melissa did. Just like Elton did. Just like Ian McKellen did. These are our role models, but it's worth noting that not a single one of them was out at the beginning of their careers. Had they been, it would have been a much different story.

Nobility is a luxury that you can't afford when you have a goal that is unattainable due to a sexual preference you didn't choose to be born with. Gay or straight, we're all entitled to the same things.

Let's face it. If you're looking for people with strong moral character and conviction, the acting/entertainment community isn't the first place you'd look.

You don't see the irony in this statement -- coming from someone in the, um, PORN business?

People will do what they do and when society is ready for change it happens.

Exactly. I can definitely agree with that. Until then, let's not look at those who walk their own paths as being "less noble" or as having "a lack of integrity." It's not up to the rest of us to place those kinds of judgments on them. We've all been there. Most of us weren't out in high school. We lied to get through. It was simply a matter of necessity. Hopefully, one day the world WILL change, and gay actors, musicians, politicians, etc. etc. will all have the same opportunities as their straight counterparts. I look forward to that day.

[XXXWriterDude]

Ahhh, but Ian McKellen was not out in the beginning of his career, nor was he ever trying to be a romantic lead.

I'm talking of the Jake Gyllenhaals, Heath Ledgers, Josh Lucases and Tom Cruises of the world. Young actors just making a start of it and trying to have healthy, prosperous careers with the opportunity to play ANY type of role they want -- not just wizards and evil mutants.

[Squirt]

Squirt, would you put all of your hard work, effort and money on the line for a principal? That's what you're asking these people to do. Let's say you were asked to make a statement to the press about an issue that could take away everything you've worked for. Even if you truely believed in this statement and felt the world should know, would you be willilng to risk it all?

I have put everything on line before due to principal and paid dearly for it and I'd do it again but I don't have hundreds of millions of dollars to lose.

I'm not asking anyone to do anything. I said that I could understand people staying in the closet for hundreds of millions of dollars.

People do what they do and when society is ready it will change.

[rick]

Not all of them lie. When asked, both Ricky Martin and Rosie O'Donnell would say "no comment" when asked about their sexuality. While Ricky poses with women for photo ops, he won't say he's straight, so he's not lying.

Funny how Rosie didn't admit her sexuality for years and kept it a secret, yet when Star Jones kept her weight loss surgery a secret, Rosie attacked her for it.

[XXXWriterDude]

I have put everything on line before due to principal and paid dearly for it and I'd do it again but I don't have hundreds of millions of dollars to lose.

I'm not asking anyone to do anything. I said that I could understand people staying in the closet for hundreds of millions of dollars.

I don't even think it should necessarily be limited to those who makes hundreds of millions of dollars. Openly gay actors, by and large, get relegated to playing -- go figure -- gay roles. Or small supporting roles like guest shots on TV shows. They are seldom given the opportunity to stretch their acting muscles, because studio execs say that people can't believe gay men playing romantic leads. Again, I really think it's just a matter of gay actors and/or musicians being able to have careers that challenge and fulfill them, just like we are all entitled to, regardless of our sexual orientations.

It really boils down to what kind of career you want to have. If you're an actor who's just happy to work and you don't care what kinds of roles you're getting, then it's OK to be openly gay from the start, but you essentially prepare yourself for the strong possibility that your sexuality is going to be a deterrent to you going up for the same parts as, say, Brad Pitt. Some of us (actors, writers, musicians, etc. etc.) just want more than that, and it actually has very little to do with money.

People do what they do and when society is ready it will change.

Still agree with this.

[XXXWriterDude]

Ok, this is an old picture... what september 2005 or 2004?

If something were to happen it would have happened ....

Actually, that pic was taken this year. If you read the caption in the lower left-hand corner, it mentions Hairspray, which John just signed on to do earlier this year.

But yeah, you're right. If something were going to happen with this story, it would have happened by now.

[Toni_Enzo]

Actually, that pic was taken this year. If you read the caption in the lower left-hand corner, it mentions Hairspray, which John just signed on to do earlier this year.

But yeah, you're right. If something were going to happen with this story, it would have happened by now.

What are you talking about, it clearly states September 11th 200- in the lower right corner of the picture. So it can not be 2006!

Take another look at the bottom of the right corner.

[Squirt]

What are you talking about, it clearly states September 11th 200- in the lower right corner of the picture. So it can not be 2006!

Take another look at the bottom of the right corner.

Magazines are dated in advance of actual publication

This is for the Enquirer to be released 9-11-2006

You didn't read my "for more information" post in this thread? http://www.canada.com/topics/enterta...01bf99&k=32224

[XXXWriterDude]

Yeah, I just learned that the magazine has yet to be released and, in fact, this story is slowly beginning to break. Last night on Bill Maher's Real Time, Maher brought it up in his opening remarks. Apparently the picture is starting to get a lot of attention online. I Googled "John Travolta gay kiss" and all kinds of blog entries and stuff came up.

It should be interesting to see how thsi progresses, if it gets anymore mainstream attention, and how Travolta explains it away -- or doesn't. I would think his camp would be quick to offer some kind of explanation.

It would be interesting to see if Entertainment Weekly covers it.

[Squirt]

It should be interesting to see how thsi progresses, if it gets anymore mainstream attention, and how Travolta explains it away -- or doesn't. I would think his camp would be quick to offer some kind of explanation.

It would be interesting to see if Entertainment Weekly covers it.

I like how the Indo-Asian news service plays it down, though they are cultural more accepting of homosexuality and male/male affection:

"Actor John Travolta seems to be taking his cross-dressing role for the upcoming movie Hairspray too far.

According to contactmusic.com, he was caught kissing a male friend. And he didn't seem to care if any one else noticed as he embraced and kissed a friend as they stepped into his private jet.

Travolta's reps are playing down the kiss saying that his wife was on the plane at that time."

Is it possible that the publics reaction to an Alister coming out/being caught out, might depend on who the Alister is? Maybe Brokeback has softened the hearts of some in the hetro community?

[Paco]

OMG!!! Has that aired yet? I need to see that.

Yup, and I must admit, it was freakin' hilarious! Chef just about made me cry out NOoooooooooo .... we've lost another, but I didn't.
They can have that crazy wife beater!

[DonMike]

...They are seldom given the opportunity to stretch their acting muscles, because studio execs say that people can't believe gay men playing romantic leads.

Yet it's perfectly permissible for straight men to play gay roles? Look at Brokeback Mountain, Broken Hearts Club, The Birdcage (Hmmm, they all begin with "B", it's a conspiracy!!!). I know it's just the way things are but for a gay actor not being believable as a straight romantic lead is crazy.

[XXXWriterDude]

Yet it's perfectly permissible for straight men to play gay roles? Look at Brokeback Mountain, Broken Hearts Club, The Birdcage (Hmmm, they all begin with "B", it's a conspiracy!!!). I know it's just the way things are but for a gay actor not being believable as a straight romantic lead is crazy.

Totally agree. We all know how business men think though, right? They think with dollar signs in their eyes and that's all. And the perception is that openly gay equals deadly box office. It's sad, but it's the way people in this town think.

[DonMike]

So how do we, as a community, change that? Openly gay filmmakers could make really good straight love stories starring well known gay actors in the starring roles. Indy movies are getting as much attention as big studios these days.

[XXXWriterDude]

So how do we, as a community, change that? Openly gay filmmakers could make really good straight love stories starring well known gay actors in the starring roles. Indy movies are getting as much attention as big studios these days.

Rupert Everett is one of the few openly gay actors who gets cool roles. He just played Sherlock Holmes for BBC. That was pretty cool. They are a lot more laid back in Europe about sexuality.

Even here, though, most directors recognize how audiences think, and cast their films accordingly. If they want to get people to come see their movies, they know what they have to do. Indie film directors aren't any different really, even the gay ones.

The only way to change it is if directors start to cast openly gay actors. And I just don't know when that's going to happen. We live in America, after all, the most backwards-assed country in the world when it comes to sex, violence and looking at humans as three-dimensional creatures instead of just commodities.