New Federal Obscenity Prosecution

[maxpower]

come over and I'll show you

Ya I did look it up, if JO/Cumming on someone is now going to be illegally we are all in deep shit, what’s going to be next, cuzz you know if you give them any ground all they are going to do is go after the next thing they have on some list, until NO porn is legal at all.

[Squirt]

Ya I did look it up, if JO/Cumming on someone is now going to be illegally we are all in deep shit, what’s going to be next, cuzz you know if you give them any ground all they are going to do is go after the next thing they have on some list, until NO porn is legal at all.

Porn has been a part of society since the beginning of man.

Legal or not sexual expression is a part of the world we live in, whether it be high heels, short skirts, tight jeans or a wifebeater. JMO

[maxpower]

Porn has been a part of society since the middle ages.

Legal or not sexual expression is a part of the world we live in, whether it be high heels, short skirts, tight jeans or a wifebeater. JMO

Ya but what would happen to all of us if anal sex was added to the obscenity list? If you ask me we need to fight this now, before showing your ankles is considered “edgy” :hmm:

[Squirt]

Ya but what would happen to all of us if anal sex was added to the obscenity list? If you ask me we need to fight this now, before showing your ankles is considered “edgy” :hmm:

well anal sex WAS illegal a few years ago

We have moved passed that, but must maintain our position to avoid being subserviant to straight society again in the future.

[gaybucks_chip]

well anal sex WAS illegal a few years ago

We have moved passed that, but must maintain our position to avoid being subserviant to straight society again in the future.

Actually not. There are still a number of states where anal sex is illegal in the privacy of one's own home, with a consenting partner. The Supremes ruled on the issue in Georgia, but there are other states with statutes that haven't been tested.

I've come to really respect and understand the viewpoint that Chad is putting forth. While a fair number of the people here might find certain depictions to be distasteful, even disgusting, we have to recognize that freedom of expression is a very precious right that has stayed pretty much unabridged over the last 225 years. The right wing losers and that bozo we have in the White House would love nothing more than to reverse that 225 year trend and control speech and expression... even more than they already have... and that's a scary thought.

It's easy to start by restricting something a lot of people can agree is offensive... but it's a very slippery slope.

I think by now most everyone who's read my postings knows that I generally dislike content that's potentially harmful to the models that are involved in producing it, I don't particularly like content that could be considered degrading or humiliating to the models that are involved in it, and I'm also uncomfortable with content that sends an unhealthy message (whatever that is.)

But my dislike or discomfort is far less important than the protection of the liberties that Americans enjoy -- at least until the loser Republicans take them away -- and so I will defend the right of any content producer to produce content that's offensive to me, simply because we cannot allow our precious freedom of expression to be limited or eroded by a bunch of right-wing losers (or anyone else, for that matter.)

[Squirt]

I thought the supreme court struck down all consentual sodomy laws :toff:

Actually not. There are still a number of states where anal sex is illegal in the privacy of one's own home, with a consenting partner. The Supremes ruled on the issue in Georgia, but there are other states with statutes that haven't been tested.

I've come to really respect and understand the viewpoint that Chad is putting forth. While a fair number of the people here might find certain depictions to be distasteful, even disgusting, we have to recognize that freedom of expression is a very precious right that has stayed pretty much unabridged over the last 225 years. The right wing losers and that bozo we have in the White House would love nothing more than to reverse that 225 year trend and control speech and expression... even more than they already have... and that's a scary thought.

It's easy to start by restricting something a lot of people can agree is offensive... but it's a very slippery slope.

I think by now most everyone who's read my postings knows that I generally dislike content that's potentially harmful to the models that are involved in producing it, I don't particularly like content that could be considered degrading or humiliating to the models that are involved in it, and I'm also uncomfortable with content that sends an unhealthy message (whatever that is.)

But my dislike or discomfort is far less important than the protection of the liberties that Americans enjoy -- at least until the loser Republicans take them away -- and so I will defend the right of any content producer to produce content that's offensive to me, simply because we cannot allow our precious freedom of expression to be limited or eroded by a bunch of right-wing losers (or anyone else, for that matter.)

[maxpower]

I thought the supreme court struck down all consentual sodomy laws :toff:

Ya but some state law still have not been changed is what he is saying, if the states try to prosecute someone for it I am sure it will get struck down eventually but I sure hope I am not the one that has to wait for the supreme court too get around to do it. :goatse:

[chadknowslaw]

Ya I did look it up, if JO/Cumming on someone is now going to be illegally we are all in deep shit, what’s going to be next, cuzz you know if you give them any ground all they are going to do is go after the next thing they have on some list, until NO porn is legal at all.

Max, you are correct. This is EXACTLY the problem with making judgements on the worthiness of content. If we as members of the adult industry do not support all forms of consensual adult expression, the fundamentalists will work to pick us off slowly by starting on the fringe. It is easy to attack the fringe porn and those producers have very little support from even within their own industry.

If you sit back and say "Oh shit that is disgusting! They DESERVE to go to jail for putting out that crap!" I can go down to the Bible Beater Fundamentalist Evangelical Jesus Joseph and Mary APostolic Church and drag 10 people away from praising jesus to look at YOUR content and I guarantee I can get some of them to say "Oh my goodness that is disgusting! They DESERVE to go to jail for putting out that filth!"

And NOW the "they" in the sentence is no longer the hard core fetish producer but YOU and YOU really wish there could be a few others standing up for you.

I do not draw the line at what I find disgusting. I draw the line at protecting people from other people and I do not believe in protecting people from themselves. If 100 people want to get together and have a fisting, scat, piss, puking, bondage bukkake vidoe taped party then more power to them. I only draw the line when there is not continual, sober, informed consent from each and every person involved.

[chadknowslaw]

"First they came for the communists, but I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews, but I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, but I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then, they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up."

Martin Niemöller, a pastor in Germany before and during World War II

[chadknowslaw]

I respect the words and meaning behind Martin Niemöller's original words. I re-wrote a little so it becomes clear how the principles that applied in Nazi Germany are being applied to us today.


"First they came for the scat producers, but I didn't speak up because I didn't produce scat videos. Then they came for the pissing producers, but I didn't speak up because I didn't make piss videos. Then they came for the bukkake producers, but I didn't speak up because I didn't produce bukkake videos. Then they came for the gay porn producers, but I didn't speak up because I didn't produce gay porn. Then, they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up."