Interesting Conversation I Just Had On AIM About Straight Webmasters..

[JohnV]

Lee,

I would certainly agree with you on many of the points you made in your above statement.

I'm betting there are quite a few people who are way too uncomfortable with themselves to say they post at a "gay" website even though they promote gay/lesbian. I'm straight, but you know me, I have been working with you for years. So if I can handle being very comfy working around you, jeeeesh, I can pretty much handle anything right

[Paco]

Lee, I believe you are correct, about the fear of being shunned, but not only by their peers. It goes deeper that just the internet!

They supply themselves with their own ultimate excuse: they can promote the "evil" action because they are profiting from it. I think it is truly sad how so many go against their "normal" ways merely to earn an extra buck!

As for "peers": I constantly harassed for coming hither and playing with those that allow me to! I am constantly being supplied with my additions (text) to this board because people are shocked that I can play the way I do - my use of words eek them! I guess that means not many are as carefree and open-minded enough.

I strongly believe I am the opposite of most simply because I seriously do not give a f__k & a half about what most of the people in this industry think, let alone feel --- most are beyond too prehistoric for me to bother with. THAT, plus the fact that I do not believe there is such a thing as god allows me to dispense with the many traditional "borders" and views held by others. Thusly, I travel freely!

Many others do no not, so they cannot!

I sure hope hell freezes over soon, 'cause I am in the express lane speeding my way there!

[GaySearch4Sex]

I think one reason straight webmasters dont post on gay wm boards is because most of them spend little time on gay sites or projects.

I def. agree though that there is a fair amount of homophobia or just plain machismo or whatever you want to call it.

However, I have to say that the team at WEG Cash including Cory, John, Gabe and Ruth are super cool and totally fine with gay content, even if they are straight. So we got to give props to the breeders who deal with gay content and are very respectful about it :cheerleader:

[gmartin]

Or maybe straight webmasters just don't like being referred to as breeders.

[XXXWriterDude]

Or maybe straight webmasters just don't like being referred to as breeders.

LOL! Exactly. The more we perpetuate an "us and them" mentality by assuming that they are homopobic just because they aren't that familiar with our product, the more engender seperation between gay and straight webmasters.

[Lee]

Or maybe straight webmasters just don't like being referred to as breeders.

I dont think ive ever seen anyone on GWW seriously refer to a straight wm as a 'breeder' in a negative way.

Regards,

Lee

[Paco]

well, I am sure as hell offended - I did not spend the cash to get :bananacock: snipped :bananacock: for nothing!

just kidding, about being offended - it (breeding) means as much as the act (breeding) does to me ... nothing!

I wish it were that simple: str8s use one offensive term, and gays another to describe the other.

However, it is not! It is the str8s with offensive anti-gay sigs that I see all the time and rarely do I see it the other way!

[gmartin]

I dont think ive ever seen anyone on GWW seriously refer to a straight wm as a 'breeder' in a negative way.

I think that's part of the problem, not seeing that the term itself is flat-out offensive. I'm a "straight" person who spends a lot of time in gay spaces, both online and off, where the term is used negatively or without any thought behind it and you would not believe some of the violent reactions I've been on the receiving end of for calling someone on it, so I'm not really commenting on GWW alone.

Regardless of intent, the use of such an expression creates a less than welcoming environment, much like the mocking that occurs on places like GFY would create a less than welcoming environment for gay webmasters. From my perspective I see a lot of "pot, kettle, black" behavior within both communities generally, though there may be little such occurrence on this particular board.

[XXXWriterDude]

Regardless of intent, the use of such an expression creates a less than welcoming environment, much like the mocking that occurs on places like GFY would create a less than welcoming environment for gay webmasters. From my perspective I see a lot of "pot, kettle, black" behavior within both communities generally, though there may be little such occurrence on this particular board.

I agree completely. Gay webmasters are always complaining about how alienated they feel from GFY and other "straight" forums, but I think gay forums are just as guilty of the same offenses.

[d@sexinc]

I'm straight and I have no problem posting over here. Buisness is business. There are some really great discussions and information over here.
More straight run gay programs really owe it to themselves to post more often in forums like this one to gain more knowledge and establish new buisness partners.
Sexinc.com has always been big on the gay side of the business, what with running Chisel.com since the mid 90's, and now that we're back with a new program, it's onward and upward from here!

[Madame0120]

Chisel.com since the mid 90's, and now that we're back with a new program, it's onward and upward from here!

I ran through the tour .. sorry to be off topic - is it common to offer only one membership option - that is auto rebilled? Just curious.

[Madame0120]

I dont think ive ever seen anyone on GWW seriously refer to a straight wm as a 'breeder' in a negative way.

Regards,

Lee

Oh?


I'd like to see where the use of the term "breeder" was used in a positive light. Kinda like my GrandMother Daisy saying ... he's such a nice lil ****** boy.

Geeze you guys! Take the high road for once. No matter the generation, or century .. two wrongs will NEVER make a right. The moment a person starts calling names, they loose their creditability, and prove how ignorant they truly are.

:nobody: And Nobody can fix the problems of bigotry, if the perpetuate it!

[Lee]

I'd like to see where the use of the term "breeder" was used in a positive light. Kinda like my GrandMother Daisy saying ... he's such a nice lil ****** boy.

Ive never seen it used positively or negatively on GWW.

It has however been used to say things like 'breeder is the equivalent of fag' as you'll notice by running a quick search

Now, on the other hand, go to any of the straight boards on BoardTrackers top 10 list and do a search for 'fag' or 'fags' and you'll see the complete opposite

Regards,

Lee

[Lee]

So if I can handle being very comfy working around you, jeeeesh, I can pretty much handle anything right

Ssshhhh.. People might get the wrong idea LOL

But yeah you're right

Regards,

Lee