Thanks for that Lee.Originally Posted by Lee
You just pointed out all the videos on his site there that are NOT on stevo-neil.com , saved me doing it myself.
Thanks for that Lee.
You just pointed out all the videos on his site there that are NOT on stevo-neil.com , saved me doing it myself.
http://www.aerialeffects.co.uk/
That site has the same model as mine ? Yes.....
That site is not mine though.
It has nothing to do with my program, or my sites. It is just the same model. Yes a couple of the videos on that site are on mine, but no videos containing watersports, scat, or anything obsene is. I have no intention of publishing obscene content, as personally i find it repolsive and wouldnt want to work with it. However if www.aerialeffects.co.uk want to publish that content, that is the choice of that sites owner.
Thank you for your concern Lee.
Just To Clarify from your post.
proppa poppered = NOT ON STEVO-NEIL.COM
Pissy pants = NOT ON STEVO-NEIL.COM
What a sport = NOT ON STEVO-NEIL.COM
Banana milkshake = NOT ON STEVO-NEIL.COM
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PISS AND CUM
This video starts with Stevo Neil urinating into a toilet, and when finishing flushing the toilet, closing the seat, sitting on the toilet and then jacking off.
PART of this video is present on STEVO-NEIL.COM, however the urination part is not.
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Hope that clarification can put your concerns at rest Lee.
Thanks again for your input.
So in essence, you arent concerned that the 'star' of your upcoming solo site is involved in obscene content distribution?
That sounds like a solid business plan you have there :thumbsup:
Regards,
Lee
I have no exclusive contract with any model, so what they do away from my business is not in my control. I cannot control anyones life, and wouldnt want to.
It isnt really relivent what any model is involved in away from work they do with my company. I would like to hear from anyone who does know everything their models do day and night.
K here let me provide you with a little bit of friendly feedback and business advice.
As everyone knows, you were deeply involved with Reece Dylan and his mass cluster fuck that screwed over dozens of companies in this industry. You say that you were a victim of his too, and got screwed over just like everyone else.
Fine. You got yourself into a situation you shouldn't have, didn't do the due diligence that you might have, and didn't exit out of the situation as soon as you probably should have.
One would hope you learned some valuable lessons from that.
As we're all aware, a single model Steve O Neil site was Reece's big first project he was presenting to everyone. Steve also happens to run a site that I think virtually everyone in the industry would agree is just an obscenity case waiting to happen.
So now, here you are, still smoldering over the industry wide explosion that was Reece Dylan, and you're using his most prominent idea for a site, and his most prominent model (who himself is involved an in extreme content site) using his same stage name, and are going to present that to the industry as your first project after Pulz Productions?
A wise business move would be to run as fast and as far away from everything and anything that was involved with Reece Dylan, and work to regain a name for yourself.
Partnering up with all of his old associates, and re-launch all of his old projects, and expecting a "Under New Ownership" sign to erase the past just seems like you're setting yourself up for another huge cluster fuck.
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I understand everything you are saying. And in some parts yes you are correct.
Here are a few things i would like to point out. There is no resurection of any of "his" projects. The model in question was also taken for a ride, and was landed in a lot of debt also. That project was Stevoneil.com.
The model in question has been using this model name for a number of years, and has been in many a DVD production under the same model name, such as Euroboy and Eurocreme productions. He has also done work since the Pulz fruad under the same model name.
Having both been landed in the "shit" (mind my french) we are trying to help each other out slightly. Yes the model in question has some small site running which is nothing to do with me.
Basicly this project is new. Its a new domain, just using the same model. Now this model isnt just a "model" to me. He is my friend, and in the past couple of months have been trying to help each other. Its strange the friendships that can form after a terrible thing happens. He was no more of a Reece's associate than i was. Infact he was less, he was just a model that never actually did anything for that company. All the content on this site has been produced "POST" Pulz.
JP i know i am not your favorite person in the world, and the same with Lee, but please cut me some slack. Yes i made a big BIG mistake, and yes im paying for it SO BADLY now. Im just trying to make my way, and doing this is helping a friend at the same time.
An established models like Stevo Neil shouldnt have to change his model name that he has been using for years just because he "nearly" did work for a fraudster.
Please start to see the possitive here.
I can understand having problems with samebb about his issues with Reece but this is just picking nits. C'mon.
The issues here are deeper than the well remembered RD
If everyone could dig deeper back into the memory pot they would find “content” was a main player in some of the initial unearthing of the RD situation.
And the reply always came in the form of… you just don’t get it. Why attack us. Go look for yourself (after the content was removed and links changed)
This thread reads a lot like those old topics but will less F’you and Talk to my lawyer.
To have a rebirth where people take note, try not to grow up in the same ol shoes.
Be Who You Are!
Sam,
I understand why you'd be a bit sensitive about the Reece thing. I don't think anyone here is trying to crucify or judge you based on your previous problems.
What people are trying to say is... you really need to think about HOW YOUR COMPANY COMES ACROSS to surfers and to others in the industry. Like it or not, among those who know, your current business dealings will be influenced at least a little bit on your previous association... ask any of the guys that used to work for Ibill about that... and so what I think people are trying to get across is... when you've had a situation that turned out not-so-good, you should probably bend over backwards to run the most clean, straightforward, legal, unquestionably up-front operation you can, so that people can see that you are a person of integrity.
Promoting a model who produces content that is iffy isn't going to enhance your reputation, even if your site itself has nothing to do with the iffy content. It reflects on you, because you're putting a lot of visibility and energy into this one model.
That's why we try to limit the work we do with models who have done barebacking or worse... it's not an image we want to portray. It's easy to say "Well, i had nothing to do with that"... but if a model you are heavily promoting and associating with your brand is known for iffy content (and, even moreso, known for being associated with someone who ripped off a lot of people for a lot of money), like it or not, it's going to have an effect on you and your business.
No one is trying to persecute you or make you wrong or judge you from past mistakes... we all make them, and as you've said, you're pretty young and I'm sure most of us here who are older or even ancient made a ton of mistakes earlier on. All we're trying to do is to help you not have to have the expensive lessons of experience, and learn from our experience.
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