Yup Michael. That makes perfect sense to me. I'm probably jaded because we started out as AVS webmasters. Two years ago AVS income was 95% of our revenue and today is it under 5%. So it is dead to me I guess, ha ha.

But you are right and it all has to do with what you put into it and I stand corrected. I should have thought better of that statement because it was more categorical than what I really believe.

I was talking to the CEO of a major AVS over lunch a couple of weeks ago. We are their biggest affiliate, but only as far as the checks they send every month... not new sales. We are still pulling in rebills from the old days, but have made only a dozen sales for them in the last couple of months. They wanted to know why we didn't push them anymore.

I told him that we are more of a traffic company now and if I can send traffic to a site like Intense Cash paying $25 on a trial, or Randy Blue paying $55, or Pride Bucks, Silver Cash, Top Bucks, Platinum Bucks, etc. etc... and not have to do hardly any work. Why wouldn't I do that?

I could do a whole lot of work and make an AVS site, but then I only get 60% (or whatever) but I have to buy the content, keep the site updated, make marketing materials. It's like making a paysite without the benefits of having a paysite. I'm certainly not going to get the signups off of their own links list anymore. So I work really hard... but its almost like I have my own paysite but pay them 40% to do my processing. Granted my customers would have access to the other sites in the program, but like you said most webmasters didn't change with the flow and shot themselves in the head, so my customers would probably have slim pickens in even that regard...but if I sent that traffic to a paysite, the paysite owner is doing almost all the work.

You do really well with AVS (AEN), but it's because you get it and know exactly what you are doing.

I should have been more specific about that. I misspoke. Sorry