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    Kevin Clarke-Leaving

    I too read the article regarding the retirement of Kevin Clarke, I don't know the person but I am familair with his work. I'm not insulted with his long letter to the gayvn...The Barebacking issue is a big issue in the gay porn industry...studios are still filming it and its a major part of the gay adult video industry regardless if we like it or not.

    I'm one of those studios that film limited barebacking scenes, we film 90% of our footage everyone has to wear a condom and 10% we film Bareback (depending on the scene and the film we like to shoot). Unfortunetly, in our business there is a great demand for Bareback films...everyone can say its bad or be against Bareback videos but the bottom line is that BB videos are in high demand.

    I also think the gay industry is dramatically changing...producers like Kevin Clarke and others that have been in the industry for a long time and are well established, many of them our just too old to produce anymore plus the industry is changing and many of the "old timers" are just not getting on the technology band wagon. Just making a DVD and selling it is not as easy as it was in the 80's and early 90's when producing a VHS storyline type gay porn video. Back in the day, these guys had it much easier then today. There is much more competition...websites are poping up all over the place, online theaters are becoming more popular....distributors aren't purchasing as many videos as they did in the past...many retail stores are going out of business or getting less walk-in traffic all due to the fact that gay men are staying home and downloading porn or watching porn online. The DVDs that are coming out today are pasted together and thrown together and sent into the market place...many of the "old timers" that still want to film a storyline and try to be creative have a very big challenge...and besides these guys are tired....after doing this business for many years and dealing with the bullshit you get kind of tired...although this is our 5th season...and I'm 39 years old...I'm sure the time I reach 55 or 65 years old...I'm going to retire as well and get out of this business...I mean how long can you last! LOL!!! Just dealing with models, dealing with other back stabbing studios, dealing with collecting money...can place you in a early grave in this business!!!:bs:


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    Unfortunetly, in our business there is a great demand for Bareback films...everyone can say its bad or be against Bareback videos but the bottom line is that BB videos are in high demand.
    There's a great demand for CP too. Fortunately, it's illegal to produce, otherwise I guarantee there would be a million producers jumping on the bandwagon to produce that as well.

    As much as I am uncomfortable with the notion of asking a model to take a risk that could cost him his life solely for my personal profit (and a few extra bucks I might offer him), I will still defend the First Amendment right of D&E (or any other studio) to produce bareback porn. I just have a problem with the argument I hear various studios using to the effect of "Well we *have* to do it to stay competitive" or "Well, it's in high demand, and our movies don't sell if we don't do it."

    That simply isn't true.

    Yes, bareback is big in Europe right now and some distributors won't take non-bareback titles. But our titles are still selling well there, as well as in the US. Ultimately, if you produce a high quality product with appeal, customers will buy it whether or not the models happen to be using condoms.

    I was chatting online with a new content producer last night. He said "Well, we have no choice, some of our models refuse to use a condom, so we have to shoot bareback." And I shot back "That's a COMPLETE cop-out. You are the producer, you are in charge, what you say goes. If you say "condoms or no shoot", they will most likely wear condoms rather than lose the money for the shoot." He didn't have much to say in response, but the point got across.

    If a producer wants to produce it, he has a right to do so. But please don't argue that "market forces are demanding that I do that to maintain my business." I am gratified to hear, quietly, from a number of studios that they have stopped shooting bareback content. Obviously, if they are doing that, it's not because of sales, but for other reasons. Quality adult content will sell, condom or no condom.

    Ultimately, what it comes down to is what an individual website or studio owner is comfortable with. If a producer is OK with the idea that a model might get infected while shooting a bareback scene for his company (keeping in mind this can easily happen even with a freshly negative test result) by either shifting the responsibility to the model, saying that the money is more important, or arguing that the model probably barebacks anyway, that's certainly a producer's perogative.

    Just please don't try to argue that "market forces dictate we produce bareback." That is a cop-out.


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    It's weird that one group would take refracted light. Pretty greedy, gays. EonFilms_Rocky's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by allboysvideo View Post
    The DVDs that are coming out today are pasted together and thrown together and sent into the market place...many of the "old timers" that still want to film a storyline and try to be creative have a very big challenge...
    And then there are the new crop of guys, such as myself and Zaragosa, who film storylines and parodies and are breathing new life into that genre.

    So it's some from Column A and some from Column B. Kevin and I have had our disagreements in the past, and after talking with him many times over the past year, I know EXACTLY where he is coming from on this decision to retire. I don't know the guy, I cannot say if I like him or not... we have certainly had our encounters over the last 12 months... but you are right. It comes down to "shit or get off the pot." How many old techs were out of a job when Windows 95 came out and revolutionized the computer world? Gotta adapt to survive, I'm afraid. Some people can do it, others just go the way of the dinosaur.

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    Old Timers VS. New Timers

    I agree with Rocky...I think the decision for Kevin Clarke to retire is mainly due to that fact the industry is changing and not the main excuse as of Barebacking. Rocky and PZP are the only two producers that producer storylines and do it very well...especially Rocky! However its still tough to just "do" DVDs today and distribute them...Both Rocky and PZP are at least technical savoy and they too are making changes. However many of the older producers just can't deal with the changing times and technology.

    I also somewhat agree with chip, you can produce a great DVD with hot looking guys and action and everyone is wearing condoms and it will still do well in the market place. Many of our condom videos do very well...however our limited bareback videos that we release do much better overall...is it a cop out? Sure it is...I admit I'm coping out. But I'm not hear to judge, if a model is tested and they are both HIV Negative and they both made the decision to Bareback...then so be it! I film it!!


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