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    I think i admire what their trying to do, i mean companies like isps should report cp whenever they find it. This seems mad though. Does it mean they will need to search for it? If so thats a cost thats very unfair. Its the fbi's job to find criminals not the isps. On the other hand knowing about child abuse and not reporting it for whatever reason seems bad to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by marcjacob View Post
    I think i admire what their trying to do, i mean companies like isps should report cp whenever they find it. This seems mad though. Does it mean they will need to search for it? If so thats a cost thats very unfair. Its the fbi's job to find criminals not the isps. On the other hand knowing about child abuse and not reporting it for whatever reason seems bad to me.
    I agree that the ISPs should be reporting cp, in fact, anyone who ever sees it should report it. Just as long as they're not reporting 20 year old twinks at the same time.
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    i don't admire it - it's grandstanding for an election. this would have a LOT of isps reporting - to the cost of their time and worry and our tax dollars - TONS of content featuring models like jeremiah from maxpixels and twink star sammy case.

    this would cause a great burden on the isp's and tons of inspections initially on legit webmasters. isp's aren't supposed to be the police and there's already a law in place that says everyone must report cp if they find it. what happens if an isp sees an image that looks fine to them and it's a girl who's late 16 years old? also, at 5 agents per inspection, this could cost the u.s. many millions of ineffective tax dollars.

    Quote Originally Posted by marcjacob View Post
    I think i admire what their trying to do, i mean companies like isps should report cp whenever they find it. This seems mad though. Does it mean they will need to search for it? If so thats a cost thats very unfair. Its the fbi's job to find criminals not the isps. On the other hand knowing about child abuse and not reporting it for whatever reason seems bad to me.


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    Oy vey.. talk about taking a political hot potato and making it au gratin!

    It sounds to me like the Republicans, who can't seem to find a way to get us out of the escalating mess they got us into in Iraq, are trying to capitalize on, not to mention heighten, the public's hyper concern over the exploitation of children.

    McCain is a sell-out, that's for sure. He used to be a rebel, now he's just a shill, and he's helping to fan the faux flames that Alberto Gonzales created solely on the basis that it elicits a reaction from well-meaning Congressmen who are too busy to ever look these propositions over carefully. Pass the rubber stamp to the next seat, please...

    Frankly I think that this whole thing is only going to create more of a problem than there already is insofar as CP is concerned. The war on drugs has only exacerbated the problem of drug abuse in this country. The war on terrorism has only made the world more unsafe. Now this... they've managed to turn a relative non-problem into a huge problem for anyone involved in the internet.

    It seems simple, but perhaps if parents watched their children more closely, the pervs living down the street from them might not have the opportunity to take salacious photos of their offspring... The answer isn't making the internet into a police state. The answer is more likely to be encouraging one parent per family to become a stay-at-home parent so they might more closely monitor their progeny as was customary forty plus years ago in this country.

    Frankly, I wish they'd focus all that misspent energy on ridding the internet of invasive and malicious spyware. I don't think McCain or any of his rubber-stamping mates are going to win an election based on this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BarebackJack View Post
    McCain is a sell-out, that's for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarebackJack View Post
    Oy vey.. talk about taking a political hot potato and making it au gratin!

    It sounds to me like the Republicans, who can't seem to find a way to get us out of the escalating mess they got us into in Iraq, are trying to capitalize on, not to mention heighten, the public's hyper concern over the exploitation of children.
    I think this is an inaccurate analysis. The bill in question here is co written by Senator Charles Shumer (D- NY) who, amongst other things just finished his 2 year stint as Chair of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, and he's now vice-chair of the Senate Democratic Caucus. He's highly ambitious, and is a steady reliable voice for Democrats that have consistently opposed President Bush.

    And he's the co-sponsor of this bill, which means he co authored it with McCain.

    Why do people cherry pick political villians? And worse, the conclusion that Senator McCain and Republicans are the cause of all evil is inaccurate. As we see here, if they stopped this, there would be the Democratic leadership as well moving these exact same bills. The truth is - its an election year, and ambitious politicians are trying to build up currency.... or as BassChick says it's grandstanding.

    A small problem.

    I'll say again --- considering all the news channels and historically huge number of channels to commicate messages... it's really a shame that our industry does not even try making the public case on the harms of this bill. This happens time and time again, and bills like this will always pass because there is absoultely no organziation... or even attempt... to articulate why bills like this are bad.

    And Mary Carey appearing infrequently on Larry King is not enough. And a scorned rant op-ed in AVN is not enough either.

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