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    He's taken a little off almost everyone's plate, hasn't he?


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    Welcome to our world! I just got year-end reports for 2006 and last year we sent out over 318,000 DMCA take down notices for the infringement of our content. Those numbers represent a 40% decline from the previous years.

    Our anti-piracy measures are having some effect, at least on our content. But, all it really does is push people into stealing other peoples content. They simply move onto content from studios that do not actively and aggressively protect their content.

    We estimate that at best we catch 10% of our infrigements, which means there were over 3,000,000+ illegal downloads of our films in 2006. Unless people in the industry pull their heads out of the sand and start doing something, the entire industry is heading for disaster!


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    WTF?

    Quote Originally Posted by Titanmen View Post
    Welcome to our world! I just got year-end reports for 2006 and last year we sent out over 318,000 DMCA take down notices for the infringement of our content. Those numbers represent a 40% decline from the previous years.

    Our anti-piracy measures are having some effect, at least on our content. But, all it really does is push people into stealing other peoples content. They simply move onto content from studios that do not actively and aggressively protect their content.

    We estimate that at best we catch 10% of our infrigements, which means there were over 3,000,000+ illegal downloads of our films in 2006. Unless people in the industry pull their heads out of the sand and start doing something, the entire industry is heading for disaster!
    Here's another one full of Titan, Falcon, Corbin Fisher and Randy Blue clips and films...

    http://gaytorrentnews.org

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    Maybe you should sue one of the smaller webmasters, let it be well known that you have. That might scare a few of the others into pulling the illegal content down if they think you will target even small time sites.

    This sucks big time. It should really be a criminal offence as its theft.


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    It's really so stupid .. smart enough to build a site, but too stupid to see the potential in doing it the honest way, and sign up as an affiliate.

    :cash:


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    It's occured to me.... are many of these sites run by teenagers?

    In the 1980s a great many of the hackers were just teens who had plenty of time on thier hands and lived in their own rooms in very comfy suburbs.... like Plano TX, the Woodlands TX, Highland Park, IL. Ma Bell and other companies had to change their calculus of confrontation when their tacks led to kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcjacob View Post
    Maybe you should sue one of the smaller webmasters, let it be well known that you have. That might scare a few of the others into pulling the illegal content down if they think you will target even small time sites.

    This sucks big time. It should really be a criminal offence as its theft.
    So many of these guys aren't even earning a dime from ripping videos. They just put them on torrents because they get-off on file sharing. And as desslock says, I bet a lot of them are young and don't have any money. And since they aren't members of any webmaster community how are they going to find out they they may be subject to legal action? I guess they may have file-sharing communities, I don't know.


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    There are some people who genuinely are fans, and they are just very enthusiastic about the videos they share. It just doesn't occur to them there is a huge conflict between being a fan and appreciating the quality of the video, and ripping it off and hurting the company that created it.

    When you email that blogger and politely tell them what they are doing to your ability to continue making more movies, they respond well. They take them down. They choose to stop posting them and any other videos and change the nature of their blog. I've dealt with a number of individuals like that.

    However, most just don't care either way. They like the "celeb status" of having a high-traffic blog with lots of comments and requests pouring in from their visitors. They do it because of that, primarily. They like the attention. Which is why the put the effort and energy (minimal as it is) in to posting links to videos up. Some also do make some revshare money, but a great many I've seen don't even do that. They just want a ton of people coming to their website so they can feel cool.

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    Blogs is an issue that is controlable. Torrents are not.

    Should one assume that paysite owners now have to hire a new person to watch and read and ask for images to be removed or be correctly linked?

    Maybe that refers to Lee's past comments when the cost of business is not worth having affiliates and the headaches.


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    In a perfect world, pirated content with watermark would be free promotion, enticing a certain percentage of viewers you'd never have otherwise have been brought to the attention of to sign up.

    But I'm not convinced that's the case. What I think is happening, instead, is that people are being further conditioned to seek out stuff for free and avoid paying at all costs, thanks to the amazing ease with which they can acquire everything for free.

    Your site doesn't become a destination on their web browser. Instead, the site featuring your pirated videos becomes the destination on their web browser and the only place they will ever go to get your videos.

    When it's so easy to get everything for free, they have zero incentive to buy - regardless of how great you make your site, how great you make your videos, or anything else.

    Once they're conditioned to get it all for free, they're lost.

    So that's why I feel it's important to hassle these sites. Get them shut down. Get videos removed from the networks. Make it difficult to get them. Have individuals distributing pirated content, as well as individuals seeking out pirated content, to get conditioned to the fact that it's an unreliable means of acquiring it, it can be difficult and inconvenient, they can't expect good quality or resolution, they have to go through hoops and up ladders to get it, and constantly have to seek out new ways to find it.

    There will always be piracy, but it's key that it can't become so easy to the mainstream masses that there's no longer an incentive to pay.

    And, quite frankly, I'm not content to let huge numbers of people get all the stuff for free in the hopes a small but decent enough percentage will come out of those masses willing to buy.

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    sorry to be nagging corbin but here are the results for corbin fisher and rapidshare on google... 25.000 links.... are you going to try and get them all down?
    http://www.google.com/search?q=corbi...n&start=0&sa=N

    dont get me wrong. i dont approve piracy, but as long as there arent any real global ways of fighting it, itīs in my opinion no use to try. but as i said: its just my personal point of view


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    Quote Originally Posted by padabum View Post
    sorry to be nagging corbin but here are the results for corbin fisher and rapidshare on google... 25.000 links.... are you going to try and get them all down?
    http://www.google.com/search?q=corbi...n&start=0&sa=N

    dont get me wrong. i dont approve piracy, but as long as there arent any real global ways of fighting it, itīs in my opinion no use to try. but as i said: its just my personal point of view
    Well, I don't doubt a great many of our videos are out there. But it should also be noted not every one of those 25,000 google results was a pirated video. Not a very good marker.

    Try and get them all down? Not necessarily. Try and get every single one we're made aware of taken down? Definitely.

    I'd like a good number of people going to blogs to get their free porn fix to click through to a link that says "video has been removed" and get all frustrated that keeps happening. I'd like blog operators to constantly get emails and comments from their readers bemoaning removal of videos shortly after their posting of the link. I'd like blog operators to keep having to change the upload service they use 'cause they're tired of the files constantly being deleted. I'd like surfers to spend awhile downloading a video only to find out it's not what they were expecting, hoping for, or of such poor quality they can't get off to it.

    I want people to know the flat out easiest, most reliable way to get ahold of the content is to pay for it. Rather than have to dig around looking over a ton of different blogs to see who might actually have the videos today and who hasn't been busted yet.

    Attentive and dedicated attention to combatting piracy can go quite far towards accomplishing all of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinFisher_BD View Post
    In a perfect world, pirated content with watermark would be free promotion, enticing a certain percentage of viewers you'd never have otherwise have been brought to the attention of to sign up.

    But I'm not convinced that's the case. What I think is happening, instead, is that people are being further conditioned to seek out stuff for free and avoid paying at all costs, thanks to the amazing ease with which they can acquire everything for free.

    Your site doesn't become a destination on their web browser. Instead, the site featuring your pirated videos becomes the destination on their web browser and the only place they will ever go to get your videos.

    When it's so easy to get everything for free, they have zero incentive to buy - regardless of how great you make your site, how great you make your videos, or anything else.

    Once they're conditioned to get it all for free, they're lost.
    I totally agree, and well put.

    A couple months ago two of my sites were uploaded to upthebum.org part of Gaytorrentnews.org.

    And I don't mean a few videos from my sites.. I mean ALL OF THE CONTENT from two of my sites.

    I've sent the S&D to no avail, as others will.

    The fucked up thing is they have an upload/download system where if you download more then you upload to their site you're "account" is suspended. WTF? So in order to be an active member you are encouraged to keep stealing from other sites, so you can keep downloading stolen content that others take.

    It's mind numbing to watch all the "thank yous" and "great videos" posts that users submit after dowloading your whole sites for free. Totally wrong and fucked up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirt View Post
    It's mind numbing to watch all the "thank yous" and "great videos" posts that users submit after dowloading your whole sites for free. Totally wrong and fucked up.
    That's another thing that totally blows me away! The attitude that is made obvious through the comments. Patting the poster on the back as if they did anything! As if they were the ones that created that video.

    Or the blogger discussing all the work they put in to getting the videos up and expecting thanks. Or even bloggers ranting and raving about how the videosharing services keep deleting the videos, as if they're being wronged or something.

    As you say, totally mind numbing.

    Bittorrents really are the worst, though. The filesharing services are pretty good about removing stuff. But the torrents and those that facilitate that system could give a rat's ass.

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