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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    why use affiliates in the normal sense anyways ? why not just go out and make a deal with 5-8 big traffic producers that can deliver a steady flow of quality and leave it at that ?

    anyone tried this and if so what where your results ?

    Danger Will Robinson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Talk about a flash in the pan site, if your only support can set around your breakfast table that would not make me sleep to well at night. Yes this works for Broke Str8 Boys now and others in the past but I am sure (big traffic producers) look at the numbers every month and really hard before sending so much traffic to start with. Can you just imagine even if they want to work with you how fast they can decide their traffic might convert 15% better across the street. :scissors:


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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    why use affiliates in the normal sense anyways ? why not just go out and make a deal with 5-8 big traffic producers that can deliver a steady flow of quality and leave it at that ?

    anyone tried this and if so what where your results ?
    I like the idea and it comes close to corbin fisher where you have to state why they should accept you as a webmaster
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEVELISH View Post
    I like the idea and it comes close to corbin fisher where you have to state why they should accept you as a webmaster
    Well personally to me it sounds like their might be some egos running a muck. Weird how it works that way sometimes


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    What does it have to do with someones ego when it comes to the decision of having a product which you do not want to see on every corner of the internet and thus being sucked dry in notime?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpower View Post

    Danger Will Robinson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Talk about a flash in the pan site, if your only support can set around your breakfast table that would not make me sleep to well at night. Yes this works for Broke Str8 Boys now and others in the past but I am sure (big traffic producers) look at the numbers every month and really hard before sending so much traffic to start with. Can you just imagine even if they want to work with you how fast they can decide their traffic might convert 15% better across the street. :scissors:
    i see what you are saying but to them it would be a hazzle free, no worries, kind of deal as they would get paid for the traffic no matter how it converted on your site.. but i can see how that might be a disadvantage to the guy buying the traffic etc..


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    Quote Originally Posted by DEVELISH View Post
    What does it have to do with someones ego when it comes to the decision of having a product which you do not want to see on every corner of the internet and thus being sucked dry in notime?
    well depending on how they word it on their site i can see how it can be seen as being an ego thing, on the other hand i can follow what you are saying too.. they are just trying to protect their brand by not allowing everyone and their godmother to advertise their product..


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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    i see what you are saying but to them it would be a hazzle free, no worries, kind of deal as they would get paid for the traffic no matter how it converted on your site.. but i can see how that might be a disadvantage to the guy buying the traffic etc..
    Not only that, but I am sure people with huge amounts of good traffic are going to want programs that have proven themselves at least too some degree, in the “real” world not just some lap dog for them to play with then they are bored.

    The best way I know to prove your program is worth more than a passing listing is to insure even a first time webmaster could convert it. If you really have the numbers why would you want to limit traffic? :jerkoff:


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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpower View Post
    Not only that, but I am sure people with huge amounts of good traffic are going to want programs that have proven themselves at least too some degree
    The people with the traffic dont care about whether a program has 'proven' itself, they care about how much $$$ they are getting paid, period.

    If someone offers them $75 per signup, all of their traffic will switch to that sponsor, if someone offers them $100 per signup, the traffic will suddenly switch to that sponsor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    The people with the traffic dont care about whether a program has 'proven' itself, they care about how much $$$ they are getting paid, period.

    If someone offers them $75 per signup, all of their traffic will switch to that sponsor, if someone offers them $100 per signup, the traffic will suddenly switch to that sponsor.

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    Is this what’s really going on? I know at some level its like this, but some of the most popular sites I see getting traffic like Broke Str8 Boys only offer 35$ PPS but they have really good numbers. Are the bigger sites offering more money to like JUB and other guys to run their sites? Or is it really just about retention, conversion numbers, and all that stuff.

    Personally I think they makes some of these 75$ PPS sites so crappy to only get first time viewers to join.


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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpower View Post
    Is this what’s really going on? I know at some level its like this, but some of the most popular sites I see getting traffic like Broke Str8 Boys only offer 35$ PPS
    No...

    They only offer YOU $35 PPS.

    Just like on Condom Cash i only offer revshare.

    The people with the traffic (and sales) get paid more, so they keep sending traffic/sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    No...

    They only offer YOU $35 PPS.

    Just like on Condom Cash i only offer revshare.

    The people with the traffic (and sales) get paid more, so they keep sending traffic/sales.

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    Lee
    So I guess you could say when programs offer 75$ and 100$ PPS they are just offering the same deal everyone else give the whales to use a gaming term.

    If this is true we are really bleeding the industry faster than I thought.


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    We do about 70% from affiliates. The rest is from our in-house gall submissions and from the gay catagories of our mgp's.


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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpower View Post
    Not only that, but I am sure people with huge amounts of good traffic are going to want programs that have proven themselves at least too some degree, in the “real” world not just some lap dog for them to play with then they are bored.

    The best way I know to prove your program is worth more than a passing listing is to insure even a first time webmaster could convert it. If you really have the numbers why would you want to limit traffic? :jerkoff:
    oh damn, i didnt make my point clear i guess.. ok back into the horse and lets try again..

    what i ment is that you buy the traffic at a fixed amount per k and pay no matter how it converts.. getting it to convert is your problem etc.. ofcause this means that you have to trust the people selling you traffic etc as it would be an easy fraud otherwise ...

    kind of like buying a banner spot for x amount of money per month, here you are just buying a fixed amount of traffic from any link / banner or popup they have etc...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    The people with the traffic dont care about whether a program has 'proven' itself, they care about how much $$$ they are getting paid, period.

    If someone offers them $75 per signup, all of their traffic will switch to that sponsor, if someone offers them $100 per signup, the traffic will suddenly switch to that sponsor.
    People with traffic also consider programs that convert well and don't shave, in conjunction with the payout amount.

    I know lots of sites with traffic that shy away from programs with high payouts because they know those programs shave :pimp:
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    oh damn, i didnt make my point clear i guess.. ok back into the horse and lets try again..

    what i ment is that you buy the traffic at a fixed amount per k and pay no matter how it converts.. getting it to convert is your problem etc.. ofcause this means that you have to trust the people selling you traffic etc as it would be an easy fraud otherwise ...

    kind of like buying a banner spot for x amount of money per month, here you are just buying a fixed amount of traffic from any link / banner or popup they have etc...
    Well their is a problem with that too, where are you going to buy traffic worth a crap? Do you not think the people that have the traffic know what it’s worth already? Why would they sell it to you, so you make cut them out of 60% of the profit or something.

    If you find someone with convertible traffic that can give more than single digit return at the best PLEASE let me know. :heart: :heart:


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