Hell I banned South Park from our Home, when one of those toons started talking about dildos.
I think I'll go watch some Bugs Bunny..
Hell I banned South Park from our Home, when one of those toons started talking about dildos.
I think I'll go watch some Bugs Bunny..
underground cartoons and comics have had shock stuff for years. there's enough edgy references in the family guy that children shouldn't really be watching it, although not many parents do their job. when we went to see south park - bigger longer uncut - there were 7 or 8 little kids in the audience.
I've struggled with this.Originally Posted by basschick
I have a great relationship with my son and I have to say, the Simpsons is what inspired Southpark, Family Guy and the other spinoffs.
IMO innocence and virtue in our children are not stiffled by dealing with reality, even if in cartoons, but only in denying reality, in whatever form.
That being said, a childs mind develops at a given pace and some things they will just not understand until they can comprehend, and put all the pieces together.
When watching the simpsons, or family guy, I find myself continually explaining things. That's what these shows do, make you communicate by giving you a platform on the infinate number of topics they address. In a way that is new to us, these show facilitate dialogue with our kids about tough yet timely topics.
Let's not forget... Bugs Bunny and countless other WB cartoons used to be very racist, violent, and disrepectful to authority, minorities, gays, the overweight, etc. (speedy gonzales, porky pig, toons in blackface *Sambo*, Tokio Joe, etc) Take a second and think about it. Same thing different generation but PC with a twist of moral ambiguity.
Think about it... any family watching the Simpsons, Family Guy, Southpark, etc. will discuss what they see, and give their opinion, thus imprinting their thought process on their children, good or bad. The Lefties will sit in judgement and give justifications to their kids where righties will explain things logically and give their children the tools to make up their own mind.
Your thoughts?
As fast as the jokes race by on those shows, I'm surprised you get the chance to explain much.
I was in my late teens when i saw that movie, and it made me want to hurl. :hmm:
most families don't really discuss what their kids watch on tv. there's a recent unicef study that shows u.s. families don't talk to or interact with their kids much at all. that's sure what i'm seeing with all the families i know - parents mostly don't seem very interested and they didn't 20 years ago, either.
i was the only parent of all the parents at my son's jr. high school pta who was willing to check out video games instead of considering them a waste of time. yet for most of the boys had a nintendo and it was something they really loved - imo their parents should have shared it with them based on that. instead most bought their kids systems and then denigrated the games and playing of the games constantly. they also paid no attention to the content of the games because they felt they were all the same so they were unable to guide their kids in this area.
besides, i'd have to say the simpsons is a lot mellower than the family guy. sure, there's adult stuff in it and i don't think it's appropriate for little kids but then it's not really a show for children. the problem is a lot of adults who just can't be bothered to consider this issue simply feel that cartoons are for kids and let them watch anything animated. hopefully they don't catch fritz the cat on cable :-/
i would say that part of innocence is trusting. a small child who sees humor that shows him or her that adults are dangerous and not to be trusted has lost a piece of innocence. a kid who watches and partly understands a show with good natured pedophilia may have their innocence distorted since it's all made to look so harmless.
How I see it…
A man walks into a talent agent's office, and says, "We're a family act, and we'd like you to represent us.”
*WARNING – Extreme content in video, may upset some people*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfRJSmrQSDk
When a comic does Blue jokes, it is in fact, a “Blue Joke”
A cartoon is nothing shy of a comic or room full of comics tossing jokes around the room until they have a script. In this instance, Family Guy, a Blue Comedy Cartoon.
Pedophilia is not funny in reality. Nor is 911, rape or killing someone. However in Blue Comedy, everything is fair game. EVERYTHING!
The major difference is the Cartoon is not selling “SEX” or “Titillation” – It’s selling Blue Comedy. A Fryers Roast is a great example of going Blue.
It’s not totally accepted in Society but it is protected under the first amendment.
Be Who You Are!
that's it right there. I honestly don't trust most parents to do their job. And I'm all for pulling shows that we know crosses the line. If that means i have to miss out on that brilliantly funny **** episode of Family Guy or the worderful rape and racist jokes in animated movies, I can stand the loss.
Who decides what "crossing the line" is?
This is similar to the bareback controversy and producers not trusting the viewer to do the "responsible" thing.
So by limiting the freedom of expression that these "shows" express, what are you accomplishing?
No matter WHAT you do , there will ALWAYS be stupid people who do self destructive things, or regular people who have a momentary lapse of judgement, it's a fact of life.
In the end, what will "pulling the shows" that you feel "cross the line" accomplish? Who benifits from you censoring input to the masses? :cop:
If their freedom to express puts others (particularly the most vulnerable in our society) at risk, what on earth could be so all-fired important to express? Look at the Family Guy episode: what are THEY trying to accomplish ... a few laughs? Not worth it.
I don't think the episode put anyone at risk, other then ****'s at risk of being found out.
Knowledge is power. When kids, and parents, know the warning signs pedos put out, they are better able to protect themselves.
TV shows are created to engage viewers to watch. The more viewers watch, the more money the network can charge for advertising spots on the show. Shows like family guy, the simpsons, etc. are a double edged sword... one networks are willing to wield to make a few bucks. The sole accomplishment is to make money, in their eyes.
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