Uh huh.
Lets go get teenage college girls REALLY drunk, and then lets take them into the van, photocopy thier ID, and talk them into doing some porn.
Sounds hella consensual to me.
They've prosecuted college boys for this, and its called date rape. Unfortunately, the college boys weren't smart enough to get a signed release from said drunk girl.
The whole GGW thing makes me ill, and I, for one, am glad that this slimeball is in jail.
And as far as consent is concerned, I don't believe even signed forms are legal if the person signing them is mentally impaired in any way (e.g. drunk or high).Originally Posted by shaun
Maybe Chad can verify that for us.
What so anyone can say they were drunk or high at the time and sue you for millions?And as far as consent is concerned, I don't believe even signed forms are legal if the person signing them is mentally impaired in any way (e.g. drunk or high).
Maybe Chad can verify that for us.
I imagine that they would have to prove in a court of law that they were impaired when they gave consent before they sued. But the settings (nightclubs, parties) where these scenes are filmed would certainly handicap GWW in a court.
Quote from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informed_consent
Yeah, I know it's not a legal document. But I didn't feel like googling forever.Informed consent is a legal condition whereby a person can be said to have given consent based upon an appreciation and understanding of the facts and implications of an action. The individual needs to be in possession of relevant facts and also of his reasoning faculties, such as not being mentally retarded or mentally ill and without an impairment of judgment at the time of consenting. Such impairments might include illness, intoxication, drunkenness, using drugs, insufficient sleep, and other health problems.
Wow! Can I tell you guys have never been girls! Do you know how easy it is to coerce a 18 year old kid? Especially a drunk one? Who you have managed to get to sign a consent form?
Even when young women KNOW their rights (and generally, they don't) - enforcing them is a whole 'nother matter. There is a GOOD reason most women don't EVER report being raped. Because, honestly, unless you've been beaten, it just ain't worth it.
As far as I am concerned, this bastard ain't nothin but a serial rapist with some high priced attorney's covering his a$$.
I have been watching stories about this Francis for a while now. He's SLIME. DIRT. The CRUD between my .... fill it in with your imagination.
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APRIL 19--"Girls Gone Wild" founder Joseph Francis today filed a $25 million defamation lawsuit against the Texas woman who last month accused him of rape. Claiming that he would not "sit back and be called a rapist," Francis filed the below Florida Circuit Court lawsuit against the 21-year-woman and a friend who accompanied her to Francis's Ritz Carlton suite after a night of South Beach partying. Francis, 31, contends that he engaged in consensual sex with the woman--identified as Amy Doe in his complaint--and even had lunch with the alleged victim and her pal the following day. Along with the $25 million, Francis is also seeking to be reimbursed the $36 he shelled out for the medium rare burgers the women ordered from room service. (8 pages)
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OCTOBER 30--Already facing criminal charges for allegedly filming underage girls naked, "Girls Gone Wild" boss Joseph Francis and his cohorts have just been sued by the parents of six teenagers who claim they were sexually exploited during this year's spring break in Panama City......Francis paid two teenagers to engage in sexual conduct in a motel shower and tried to pull up a 17-year-old's shirt in a bid to expose her breasts. His employees were charged with giving booze spiked with "drugs or additional stimulants" to a 16-year-old who was then "coerced" into engage in sexual conduct with a friend. The complaint also alleges that "Girls Gone Wild" representatives "cajoled, harassed, intimidated and persuaded" a 15-year-old girl to flash her breasts on camera.
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http://www.latimes.com/features/maga...,2664370.story
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There are LOTS of stories about this guy, just like these ones, and I am sure there are thousands of stories from young women too ashamed of themselves to come forward. I hope they put him in the general population, where he gets to be someones bitch for a few really really long years.
And... the problem is, as long as it's just flashing breasts, the Feds can't do anything under 2257, because it isn't a violation. They can rightfully claim they are "in 2257 compliance" and still have a bunch of underage girls flashing their boobs.
The guy is definitely sleazy. Be interesting to see if a bunch of his then-inebriated victims could create a class action.
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