Update: Titan media Vs. Veoh

[Matt 26z]

Here in Australia they've been discussing a 3 strikes you're out for surfers who download stolen content from file sharing sites. After the third strike your internet is disconnected. How do you feel about that?

Something similar was briefly discussed here in 2003. Sen. Orrin Hatch wanted to develop software that would destroy people's computers on the third offense.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in551969.shtml

"If we can find some way to do this without destroying their machines, we'd be interested in hearing about that," Hatch said. "If that's the only way, then I'm all for destroying their machines. If you have a few hundred thousand of those, I think people would realize" the seriousness of their actions.
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I am not in favor of the government getting involved to this degree. I think citizens can handle this on our own. There are some major ISP's in the US who have a two strikes and you're out rule. On the second complaint from the RIAA or whoever your service is terminated.

But for the most part as it stands right now you can have P2P software running 24/7 and upload 1000 videos to YouTube and nothing is going to happen.

The copyright owners either don't care, are daunted by the task of stopping individual users or they feel like it's bad PR to go after anyone other than a large company.

[IdolKnights]

A program cannot decipher weather you are downloading the video, audio or application media for reasons allowable under U.S. law.

American fair use provisions allow people to use copyrighted material for parody, criticism, review and Training.

[Matt 26z]

A program cannot decipher weather you are downloading the video, audio or application media for reasons allowable under U.S. law.

It's actually not the downloading that people get into trouble over. It's the uploading. I don't think anyone has ever been sued for downloading. Making it available to everyone else is where the infringement is.

Besides, even if you want to use the material for "parody, criticism, review and Training" that doesn't mean you can walk into a store and shoplift the original copy. Downloading it is still technically theft regardless of how you are planning on using it.

[Squirt]

Besides, even if you want to use the material for "parody, criticism, review and Training" that doesn't mean you can walk into a store and shoplift the original copy. Downloading it is still technically theft regardless of how you are planning on using it.

Great point

[IdolKnights]

Besides, even if you want to use the material for "parody, criticism, review and Training" that doesn't mean you can walk into a store and shoplift the original copy. Downloading it is still technically theft regardless of how you are planning on using it.

Right - The catch 22 - However, you are thinking about the issue, or more so, using examples of a Brick and Mortar world when referring to a digital environment.

[IdolKnights]

I don't think anyone has ever been sued for downloading.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA#High_profile_lawsuits

In 2005, Patricia Santangelo made the news by challenging the RIAA's lawsuit against her. While she succeeded in getting the lawsuit against her dismissed, her children were then sued, with a default judgment entered against her daughter Michelle for $30,750 for failing to respond to the lawsuit (a motion to vacate has yet to be filed). Another defendant, Tanya Andersen, a 41 year-old single mother living in Oregon, has filed a countersuit against the RIAA.