Thanks for the tip

After uninstalling both messenger and toolbar I found that reinstalling, not the update, gives you the option to disable toolbar etc. However after reinstalling and deselecting those options, it still loaded yahoo as my main page and tried to override google toolbar 2 times after starting explorer.

So.. I deleted the directory c:\program files\yahoo

still the same problem

So I disabled all of the yahoo IE addons

still the same problem

So I did a regedit, searched and deleted anything with keyword Yahoo, then rebooted.

And... I'm good to go :thumbsup: