not trying to be difficult Lee, but... the surfer goes to the join page and has to decide on choosing iBill or ccBill... so there is no way that they are using iBill as a backup... it is clearly visible that the surfer makes the choice...

they have 8 gay sites, 2 of them do this, 2 i have checked don't... they go directly to a ccbill sign up page..

so am rather wondering just what kind of stunt this is?