I had a Mac and ran back! :kickcan:Originally Posted by TropixxxStudios
I had a Mac and ran back! :kickcan:
Lee,
Let me know what you narrow your Sony search down to, I am doing the same thing as we speak. The 140e looks pretty good, only 1.8ghz x2 though, my current sony I am on now is 1.67 x2, but the design of that laptop looks hot.
You're welcome, but you asked:
The answer to that is yes, and I listed the programs I use for the things webmasters need. I didn't say it was the same exact Windows programs- although some are, like Firefox, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Illustrator, Thunderbird, iTunes, and many others.
I don't really think "learning" a new FTP program is difficult. You click a file and click upload. Nor is the 'iMac OS' difficult to learn.
But suit yourself. I would really suggest actually trying the 'iMac OS' at the 'iMac store' so you can see for yourself.
edit: Here's an interesting article about what Sony has done on Windows http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_So...ection_scandal
Jacob,
This is the current Sony model i like...
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1177113305036
Every time we go to BestBuy or Circuit Shitty its the one i always start playing with.
HP also have a couple of new ones with touch screen technology however, i dont think i could ever use those in their current format because after 30 minutes of holding my arms out touching the screen to do things they start aching, id never get any work done
Regards,
Lee
The G4 was a PowerPC processor, not an Intel processor. It was not supposed to ever be compatible with x86 applications.I had a powerbook g4, that was the greatest 2 years ago when I bought it. I didn't mention an issue about the speed. I actually thought it was really fast! That wasn't part of my comparison. I loved using safari and pages pulled up super fast when surfing. My complaint was mainly with the compatability issue. If you are going to run pc programs, get a pc and save the money, hassle and headaches.
Today's mac processors are Intel processors and can even boot Windows natively or run it in a window through Parallels.
Jacob,
This is the current Sony model i like...
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1177113305036
Every time we go to BestBuy or Circuit Shitty its the one i always start playing with.
HP also have a couple of new ones with touch screen technology however, i dont think i could ever use those in their current format because after 30 minutes of holding my arms out touching the screen to do things they start aching, id never get any work done
Regards,
Lee
Yeah Lee that is the 140e, that is the same one I was looking at getting! Good choice!
Oh yeah, I forgot Microsoft Office. That also runs on OS X, though I don't use it.
Dude I know that! What I wrote has nothing to do with that. That is just the machine I had. The problems still remain the same, the solution is parallels and or bootcamp. You are stuck on the machine I had, which has nothing to do with what I was writing about. They also didn't even have bootcamp or parallels back then and that is the current solution to run pc apps on a mac os.
I know you know that, I'm saying the compatibility issues really are not much of an issue anymore. And it doesn't cost $3700 either, and boot camp partioning (only really neccessary for gamers that want 3d acceleration) is pretty simple like everything on OS X.
But you do have a point, for people who want a PC they should just get a PC and not a Mac acting like a PC, regardless of how well today's Macs are able to do that. You wanted Outlook, and it does suck on OS X.
I have always hated Outlook personally, and I was a Windows user for 6 years before I got a Mac Pro earlier this year. I got tired of the extensive Windows security issues always in the back of my mind, I was tired of the OS itself, and I'm not a gamer- so there really was no program (apart from statsremote) that can only run on Windows.
The compatabilities are an issue, it's expensive to make pc apps work on the thing and probably a headache to figure it all out if you are a new mac user which is what Lee would be.
Pricing:
Ok the macbook pro 17" is $2800 + $350 for a windows OS + $79 for parallels + 7% tax = $3,455
Brand new Sony Vaio $1,350 ready to roll!
OS updates? OMG OS/x updates none stop! Just this morning freaking itunes and quicktime wanted another update after I only installed it a few weeks ago, that thing is always wanting updated! I do like how mac osx updates though, it updates pretty much everything simply.
I love outlook and it binds me to everything else I need. I mainly use my laptop for linux work, messaging, email, contacts, calendar, surfing and invoicing. All of those things work great under a pc. I use it as a business machine.
I'm really not trying to be pedantic here or argue everything you're saying, buuuuuuut...
1) Windows does not cost $350 unless you don't know about the OEM pricing. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...rating+Systems Take your pick.
2) The thread was about buying an iMac, then you separately said it costs $3700 to run Windows on a Mac. You can even run Windows on a Mac Mini, so you are talking ~ $160 on top of the $600 or so a Mac Mini costs. No one will ever argue that Macs are cheap- they are a niche product for a certain type of consumer. But you can run Windows on a Mac for much less than $3700.
3) That being said, is the $1350 Vaio using Santa Rosa and has identical hardware to the Macbook Pro (especially the GPU)? It may, I don't know- so I'm not saying you're wrong about that off the bat.
4) There was no OS X update this morning, and I just checked now to confirm. Windows updates nearly every week though.
Anyway, I was really just trying to convince Lee to give it a fair shot, not convince someone who tried it and didn't like it. Not everyone has to like the same products. I just wish I had gone back to Mac sooner and not spent 6 years on Windows.
Did you read my original post? I think you need to go back and read the original post.
I said it would cost ME around 3700 to get it the way I wanted. Which turned out to be around 3500 to get it the way I wanted 17" macbook pro.
I said my mac software wanted to update this morning, itunes and quicktime and that the MacOS is always wanting updated as well. I have an imac here at the house. It wants updated just as much as Microsoft.
Finally I didn't try to convince him to do shit, I just answered what he asked about. This was the last paragraph in my original post.
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"If you just want one to play around with, then go for it, but I want an all in one solution and the Mac couldn't do that for me in the way I wanted it to do, so I bought a Sony laptop and have had a few ever since then and love them.
The type of computer, os, etc., really depends what you plan on using it for. So figure out your needs and then see if it matches up with what you plan on doing with it.
I hope this helps! Just my opinion of course!"
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You need to go back and read my original post. You've forgotten a lot of it!
I just sorta skimmed your original post because it was long and looked boring. I only replied to the G4 post after that.
The point is, and I've offered you this out twice already, some people like Macs and some people like PC's. It is worth trying a Mac.
For people who really need to run Windows software only, as I said before, get a PC. It would be pointless for someone unwilling to accept there may be better software out there for getting their work done. But if nothing you do is Windows-specific, try a mac. If it's a mix, macs are far more compatible now than in the past, Parallels runs Statsremote faster than my Dell Precision did, and that's the only program I have to run. And if you know about OEM pricing, and are comparing similar PC to Mac models, they price difference isn't difficult to stomach.
Well because you didn't read my original post and continued to argue with me about what I had already covered, you have now wasted a lot of other people's time.
They may have wanted to obtain some knowledge from this post. Now it will seem very "boring" to them because you wrote all of these pointless posts arguing with me about stuff I had already covered.
How do you argue with someone, when you didn't read the post you are arguing about?
At least I don't look like lead singer from Hanson.
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