For us older guys, twink was not just an age thing (Lisa is right about the body types) but more about an attitude. Jocks clearly look as though they could compete in at least one sport. Twinks (which back in the 70's was derivative of the term twinkie) are all sponge cake with creamy filling. Overly sweet and lacking in nutirional value. Even when I was 22 (back on the Conestoga wagons) it was more a pejorative term. I do think that by the terms origin, pale and colorless was included in the description (hence the exclusion of latinos, blacks and asians). But things have certainly changed. Twink was a subset of the chicken family. Some day I will do an organizational tree to lay all this out. :joker: