So Apparently I Was At Internext In January

[Lee]

So how do you explain that, are you saying you dont give your sponsors a list of attendee name and addresses from the show?

Regards,

Lee

[gaybucks_chip]

In fairness to AVN, I think having people at the booths scan admission badges and acquire information is not selling a list, it's a shorthand form of collecting contact info willingly provided by the attendees at the show.

I think I remember, when looking over AVN's package of services, that companies that exhibit could purchase (or maybe automatically receive) a copy of the attendee list for that year, but to me that is a little different than selling the attendee list to anyone who asks, and I have less problem with it.

In other words, if I attend a show - ANY show - I sort of expect that the companies exhibiting will be able to pester me. I am pretty sure that CCBill does this with Phoenix Forum as well. But I would not be so happy to find out that the show producer is selling my info to anyone and everyone.

In this case, the company sending the junkmail did attend Internext as an exhibitor (at least, according to their letter) so I don't really think AVN has done anything any different than what any other show producer would do.

[chadknowslaw]

I notice that a representative of AVN shoots off a very smart-ass response denying the allegations but when Lee shows the actual letter there is silence.

[chadknowslaw]

In fairness to AVN, I think having people at the booths scan admission badges and acquire information is not selling a list, it's a shorthand form of collecting contact info willingly provided by the attendees at the show.
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But Lee was NOT at the show, so there is no way any booth babes could have scanned his ID.

[Lee]

But Lee was NOT at the show, so there is no way any booth babes could have scanned his ID.

Exactly, so they sold my information to a company when i didnt give any permission for that to take place.

Just further proof at the lack of business ethics the scumbags at AVN have so long as they can line their pockets at the expense of others.

Regards,

Lee

[AVNChris]

Hey Lee- We actually do not sell our customer lists - in fact the company that sent you that letter is not a customer nor did they exhibit.

[chadknowslaw]

Hey Lee- We actually do not sell our customer lists - in fact the company that sent you that letter is not a customer nor did they exhibit.

Thank you Chris -- I for one appreciate a straight answer with some details WHY and no chip on the shoulder.

[Lee]

In fairness to AVN, I think having people at the booths scan admission badges and acquire information is not selling a list, it's a shorthand form of collecting contact info willingly provided by the attendees at the show.

Agreed and i have absolutely no problem with that, so long as im actually at the show and allow one of the booth bunnies to scan my badge.

But AVN selling MY information at a show that i never attended in the first place is just downright dispicable especially from a company who are purported to be industry 'leaders' :eek:

Regards,

Lee

[gaybucks_chip]

You both raise a good point.

The company American Merchant Systems is pretty aggressive in its mailings - we've gotten a few from them over the years. So it's possible they used a previous year's list where you did attend - but it does sound a little odd that they would be addressing the letter as though they'd met you at Internext this year.

It clearly doesn't make sense that they'd be saying "we met you at Internext" as a result of buying AVN's list if you weren't even at Internext this year, so it seems more likely they bought somebody else's list and didn't bother to change the letter.

Maybe you should give them a quick call. That would clear up once and for all if AVN sold them a list or if they got it elsewhere.

[mjavn]

I'll say it again. We don't sell our lists.
If someone has your information, it wasn't because we sold them a list.
Maybe, instead of pointing the finger at us, you should contact the company who said they met you at a show you weren't at.

I'll also mention again, that anyone who wants to discuss the issue with me, or any other one for that matter, can feel free to contact me at any time. My info is listed in this thread. I'd be happy to discuss anything, but I won't continue to do it on the boards or to be personally insulted.