I think this is getting off topic. My stance, if a model can give you no part of any scene, then fine don't pay. If a model comes in and says "ugh, I am not doing him" or is uncooperative, then fine. If a model comes and really tries, and you get any part of a scene, even if you just get soft core nude pics, if a producer gets ANYTHING that is usable, that they will consider using, the model should be paid for that portion of the work.

If the model gets fucked on camera but cannot cum, they should still get paid. Cum shots aren't *that* hard to fake, I have done it in the past, and no one has ever noticed that it wasn't real cum.

The thing we have with Hyde Park is that the model did 2 web cam shows, and he did complete one scene. He was told he was going to get paid, and by all accounts, he should be paid.

If what Derekt is saying is that he won't pay, but still may use the video, IMO that is just fucked up. And saying if you can't perform then don't apply, well you must not have spent much time in front of the camera, it can be stressful for the models, sometimes, they aren't going to be able to get hard, telling them to just leave, isn't going to resolve the situations. Models are very venerable while in front of a camera, and I think the whole situation should be handled with great care, and great respect for the models.

If anything, telling them to leave, and treating them in such a manner will just if anything give them a complex about it. Models are people, they aren't these robots that are going to perform perfectly every single time, and you can't be fast just to fuck them over the first chance you get. Sure we have a business, but we rely on models, and taking care of them, and making them comfortable, as well as safe while working with producers should be a number 1 priority.