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    Life is a dick and when it´s get hard---just fuck it... DEVELISH's Avatar
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    Hi,

    how do you screen or check your affiliates.... how would y'all screen me who does not quite show up on the US market and leaves a quite light footprint on the internet in general?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEVELISH View Post
    Hi,

    how do you screen or check your affiliates.... how would y'all screen me who does not quite show up on the US market and leaves a quite light footprint on the internet in general?
    There are some really basic methods any program owner can use to check the validity of an affiliate, the first is to make sure that the new affiliate signing up to any program has an active website and that the site is hosted somewhere that isnt 'yahoo' or 'geocities'.

    Then there are name searches based on exisiting affiliates, you would be suprised how many affiliates join the same program over and over again.

    Then there are those who simply dont read the T.O.S if someone signs up from say, Iraq, and they havent emailed me first, their account gets removed, it clearly states in the T.O.S where the 'banned' countries are and if they reside in that country to contact me before joining.

    There are also IP checks that can be done and of course if you run a CCBill program, you can always send a flag over to CCBill's fraud dept and ask them to check an affiliate out for you also - This is actually how i catch most of the scammers that join Condom Cash, something just wont sit right with me and ill ask CCBill to work their magic.

    Regards,

    Lee


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    I agree with Lee and think that sponsors should auto-approve new affiliates.

    But I don't think it's unreasonable for a sponsor to include a clause in their TOS that says they can terminate the account at any time (actually, I think most sponsors already include this, right?). Then the sponsor can check out the affiliate at their leisure and if they see a problem, pull the plug. This is the "innocent until proven guilty" approach that I think most people agree is fair. The sponsors that require pre-approval are taking the "you're guilty until I find out otherwise" approach and I could see why it would frustrate honest affiliates.


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    I've always been openly gay. It would never occur to me to behave otherwise.
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    So after they have put up our banners and video previews on their sites filled with stolen content, then I should not expect to get the same "Why the hell would Manifest use the theft of our videos to make money for them" vilifying our sites in the same way I have seen others done.

    If an affiliate can not wait 12 hours max then they do not have what it takes make sales.

    We do not work on the premise of shutting the barn door AFTER the horse has run off. It is much harder to have this material removed then it is to simply not get it out there to begin with. But if a site owner has zero interest in the quality of the promotion, or the dilution of the value of the content they provide to their blog clients then I imagine putting it all out on the curb for anybody to grab is just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_Manifest_M View Post
    If an affiliate can not wait 12 hours max then they do not have what it takes make sales.
    Really?

    Did you ever think it was because we have bettter things to do with our time than 'wait' to be approved to start sending traffic to a home?

    Im sorry but with so many sponsors in the industry im not waiting to be 'approved' by anyone im just going to move on to another program.

    Im the first to admit i have no patience, i hate waiting in line at the store, i hate having to wait to download content, theres no way in hell im waiting for some self-absorbed affiliate program owner, who doesnt think their shit stinks, to tell me when i can start sending traffic to their sites $0.02

    Regards,

    Lee


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    I agree with the folks at manifest. IMHO, if you cannot wait for 12 hours to start promoting then you don't have the patience IMHO to push a program appropriately. It is a business and should be thought of as such. If you are so impatient that you cannot wait for a few hours to get approved then I'm not sure you have the patience to work the program the way it should be.

    I also agree that it is a double edged sword. If you auto approve and let them send traffic then you get the whole "Why the fuck was I canned" emails. On the other hand you get the "Why the fuck am I not auto-approved" emails. The simple fact is that validating an affiliate account is necessary. Some companies just do it differently, I would rather check them out first, then afterward.

    Again my opinion only, it just means planning ahead and working the product to the best of your ability.


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    Very recently, I signed up to CollegeDudes247.com.
    I was prepared to get all set up with linking and the banners and everything. And then I got a page that said "Your account needs approved."
    My "sign up" was not approved for 4 days.
    Honestly, after the first 10 minutes I was done with them.
    This has been about a week now and I still have no intentions on sending them traffic because I signed up with other affiliate programs. I doubt I ever will. It does make webmasters feel uncomfortable in a sense when your sign up or account has to be approved first. When I got that message, the first thing that came to mind is what if later down the road they don't like where the banner is and make the decision to terminate my account or something.
    It's just not something that makes you feel right.

    However, if using affiliates video clips or images, that I could understand but not banners or text links.

    Am I the only one who feels this way?


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    I wish I had the time to copy/paste all the furious posts from affiliates regarding the placement of banners from sponsors on sites which host stolen content. Or maybe affiliates that wonder when (if ever) that they are going to be paid by sponsors who appear and disappear and then appear again under a different name.

    Our chargeback ratio is tiny. Less than 0.2%. That is 2/10ths of one percent. Why? Because we work very hard to be sure that our tour accurately reflects our content and we target our marketing. We do not want to negatively impact this relationship with our processor or damage the relationship with our own merchant account. The bulk of our chargebacks this year were due to affiliate false promotion. You can be sure that not one of those customers is angry with the affiliate but rather with Manifest and what they perceive as "our" false advertising. We are a solo bodybuilder site. If it is promoted with a mini-tour with photoshopped cowboy hats or put forward as a fisting site, well you can pretty much expect that the surfer is going to be pretty pissed off.


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