Why is CCBill processing for a pirate site?

**Lee** · 02-24-2009, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by usasgb

Lastly, I have never seen nor read any subtle hints condoning pirating videos for donations on bigdickclub.us or any other site. I speak for every member as well as myself when I say we don't need a moderator to police videos when the administrator should just delete the member(s) in question.

What do you do in the adult industry? Do you actually own a website yourself?

Regards,

Lee

**usasgb** · 02-24-2009, 04:57 PM

Don good point, I was playing the devil's advocate. No I do not approve of stealing licensed content.

However, if bigdickclub.us has or had tons of porn than lifeout, gaywatch, and gayforit has mega tons of porn. I have and still see your videos on two of those sites listed above i.e. gaywatch/gayforit.

Did you or anyone else send DMCA take down notices to these well established sites? If so, how are they able to provide the food for the rest who are hungry for porn, and not for grandma's meatballs? It is these people who perhaps by proxy think it's okay to take videos from a well established site and post on a 2nd or 3rd tier site. Yes, they are naive but yet conditioned by the standards and actions or lack there of to allow pirated videos in the first place.

As for my involvement in the porn industry, I'm a PHP Programmer and Designer as well as a webmaster (socialparody.com)*

*Beta Launch March 30th, 2009.

**usasgb** · 02-24-2009, 05:12 PM

I have a follow up question as well. I try to read between the lines as the message isn't always explicit. What I'm sensing and please correct me if I'm wrong, but are you'll intimidated by these well established sites?

If someone were to pirate/copy my programming source code, I too would be angry. Though, this has never happened as of yet. Knock on wood!

Coding is not an easy thing to copy and implement, anyhow, but still a real threat to the industry as well.

Yes, I work closely with bigdickclub.us as I've written a number of widgets. I think adult social networks are a valuable asset to the adult community as people are able to share their own amateur videos with their friends fellow members.

This seems to be the future of the adult porn as you don't need expensive equipment nor cameras to get some decent footage.

**DonMike** · 02-24-2009, 05:45 PM

The topic of this post was why a billing company that works with the adult industry would work with a website that is stealing from the adult industry. That matter has been settled and I think CCBill for listening and taking action.

In the conversation about this you brought up a totally different point. It's not that I'm ignoring that point, it's just off topic. All those sites you mentioned are a huge problem to this industry and the appropriate action will be taken. And I'm sure everyone here has the same concern and are also probably in the process of taking action.

It just so happens that big dick club hit the radar and became a topic of conversation.

I'm always fascinated when people who run these sites that benefit from stolen content are called into question and their first line of defense is... look at the other guy, he's stealing more than me... why not go after him first? I mean, does the fact that someone is stealing more than you make your stealing somehow right? Are we somehow acting inappropriately here by not going after the bigger thief first? Should we let the big dick guy get away with his piracy while we spend whatever time and energy it takes to bring down the bigger piracy sites?

Honestly, when this first started and he was contacted, had he sent a message to his members simply stating that any copyrighted content would be removed and the posting member's profile be suspended an/or deleted, then I wouldn't have given it another thought. It was because he specified which studios that he did not want posted that set off my alarms.

**usasgb** · 02-24-2009, 06:06 PM

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see anywhere stating it's okay or not okayto upload pirated content.

Again, I support the industry as a whole to stop piracy. I magnanimously support what you'll are doing. Intellectual property is sacred.

However, I will state again it's the industry as a whole have conditioned these pirates to continue their pirating.

To say he stole more or less isn't a justification for piracy. As mentioned in the first reply, there are haters out there. These same haters can and have uploaded pirated materially then report it only to see the site receive a DMCA take down notices.

Where's the legal justification in that? Webmasters as I know can not be everywhere, everyday, all day!

Lastly, it is a well know practice for the DEA to go after the suppliers and not the users. Hence, cut out the major suppliers of porn piracy and you'll most likely find the end users out of porn. Hence out of site, out of mind!

**Rich** · 02-26-2009, 12:27 PM

do you think i could take donations on my freesites to make some more money or would that not work you think

**boyvideos** · 03-21-2009, 04:55 PM

Hi Don this has nothing to do with your post. So I'm sorry about that. By any chance do you know of any one that want's to invest money on a site?
I'm looking for a parner or silent investor. If you know of any please let me know
Thank You
J..

**maxx68** · 03-21-2009, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by usasgb

I have a follow up question as well. I try to read between the lines as the message isn't always explicit. What I'm sensing and please correct me if I'm wrong, but are you'll intimidated by these well established sites?

What I'm sensing is someone who got tipped-off that folks were talking about his site is nosing around, hmmmm?

**gaybucks_chip** · 03-21-2009, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by nickbaer

Sounds like a job for GayBucksChip's anti-piracy group promoted here months ago...

I believe I said it was something we were working on, not something that exists. It's still being worked on, and I know that Titan is working on something for the industry as a whole as well.

Part of the issue has been finding a good IP attorney that we feel confident with that is willing to work within the structure we're trying to set up rather than a strict fee-for-service as most attorneys are used to.

**boyvideos** · 03-22-2009, 01:03 AM

Hey USASGB

You are 100% correct social networking sites like bigdickclub.com, lifeout.com,dlist.com,gaywatch.com and gayforit.com are taking all of the gay porn sales away from there original company's. I understand that some company's post sample videos to try to get people to there sites. but when video's get to be more then 1 to 2 minutes long, your going to loose the sale. I have seen videos on gaywatch.com that are 15,20 and 30 min's long. all these people log of to get off. once they do that you loose, we all loose. The thing I don't understand if you guys hold copyright why don't you have them taken down and like DonMike said you should all have water marks on the video. Sample video should not be longer then 1 min. and edit them in a way that people cant even get a hard on. like I said once they cum we lost them.
just log on any of the sites and after a while you'll see there is no need to rent,buy or get a member ship to any sites. your getting it there 100% free. and there are lots of video's to choose from. Trust me I'm a member to all the sites. and I have seen it 1st hand.

**DonMike** · 03-24-2009, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by boyvideos

Hi Don this has nothing to do with your post. So I'm sorry about that. By any chance do you know of any one that want's to invest money on a site?
I'm looking for a parner or silent investor. If you know of any please let me know
Thank You
J..

I really don't know. Although I think you'll have much more luck posting a new thread in the main forum about this. Good luck.