i was refused by fleshlight to join there program :(

[StunnerJesse]

I was going to say...Daniel is the rep for Fleshjack that I know of and he has been simply amazing in every way.

Maybe they just needed a healthy employee turnover? They recently had one and I have had nothing but praise.

[derekt]

Fleshjack sponsored us 15 Fleshlights and 15 Fleshjacks for filming.

Between the Fleshlights and the Fleshjacks. There is absolutely no difference. Maybe just the color of the sylinder. But that's the only difference that I see. When I spoke to Nick DiMartino (I believe is his name) he said that he went to product development and suggested having the "Fleshjack" for gay men, and the Fleshlight for Straight Men. Okay, why? They are the same thing.

I have never gotten this.
Then when we did apply to be an affiliate to FleshlightCash.com we were denied because we are a gay oriented company. 2 weeks later after the decline, an email was sent to us saying on the lines, "You were declined because you are promoting a straight product on a gay site." So then we resigned up to promote the "gay" product. Since we have made 2 sales in about a year and a half.
From looking at XTube, PornoTube, Gay.com chat, etc. I have not seen anyone call it the "Fleshjack" it's always "Fleshlight."

It's designed for men. Or at least it looks that way. So why have 2 products of the same thing? I have never got this concept.

Secondly, I have emailed affsupport@fleshlightcash.com on 2 occasions to change our payout name on checks and have never been acknowledged. And recurring sales checks are still coming in under the same payout name.

[Lee]

Then when we did apply to be an affiliate to FleshlightCash.com we were denied because we are a gay oriented company.

Therein lays the root cause of the problems Fleshlight is going to have breaking in to the gay webmaster community... Many of us have been declined for the exact same reasons in the past.

Now they realized they pretty much fucked up, they want us to forgive and forget.

I do think this new affiliate rep can overcome these past issues however, i really do think its going to be a long road for him to convince most of us that the upper management truly has changed their attitudes towards the gay market segment and that we arent just a new revenue stream for them.

Regards,

Lee

[fleshjack]

Well ive had sent a couple of PMs back and forth with the new Fleshlight affiliate rep and i have to say, im actually pretty sure that he is trying to do his best to make up for past mistakes by this company.

Im willing to give him the benefit of the doubt this time as it really does appear like he has been given a near impossible task of rectifying past mistakes by the program but, from what i can tell so far, he truly is trying to rectify them as much as he can.

It does appear from the couple of conversations i have had with him that he realizes that gay industry just isnt something you can 'slap a gay label on' to an old product for it to sell and he does have a direction that he would like to see the program move in when it comes to supporting the gay webmaster community, unlike his predecessors.

Hopefully, this is going to be the one time where a company has actually gone about marketing their product to the gay webmaster community the right way and i for one look forward to seeing what is down the road for Fleshlight as they start to support the gay webmaster community as a whole including gay affiliates who may want to start promoting their product.

Regards,

Lee

Lee, thanks! Let me introduce myself - my name is Daniel Pacheco, I'm the affiliate manager for Fleshlight. As many of you know, we've switched over from FleshlightCash to FNCash. When switching over to FNCash, we added two new sites--Fleshjack and Fleshlight Girls.

Our management team knew it was necessary to create a web site devoted to gay men, which is why we created Fleshjack. It was necessary to create another site---our gay visitors were not thrilled to hit the Fleshlight home page and see women.

Lee is correct--you can't just "slap a gay label on it". We're still in the process of optimizing Fleshjack. Currently, there aren't tremendous differences between the Fleshlight and Fleshjack but in the near future, we plan on introducing exclusive textures and orifices for Fleshjack. Furthermore, the product mix, such as our Male G-spot line, varies between the sites.

As we've done with FleshlightGirls, we plan on introducing custom molds of notable porn stars, such as the Visconti Triplets. There's a lot in store for Fleshjack...

Again, I apologize for any past mistakes made by our company. If I could be of any assistance, please feel free to contact me!

Daniel Pacheco
daniel@fleshjack.com
ICQ: 431706235

[fleshjack]

Fleshjack sponsored us 15 Fleshlights and 15 Fleshjacks for filming.

Between the Fleshlights and the Fleshjacks. There is absolutely no difference. Maybe just the color of the sylinder. But that's the only difference that I see. When I spoke to Nick DiMartino (I believe is his name) he said that he went to product development and suggested having the "Fleshjack" for gay men, and the Fleshlight for Straight Men. Okay, why? They are the same thing.

I have never gotten this.
Then when we did apply to be an affiliate to FleshlightCash.com we were denied because we are a gay oriented company. 2 weeks later after the decline, an email was sent to us saying on the lines, "You were declined because you are promoting a straight product on a gay site." So then we resigned up to promote the "gay" product. Since we have made 2 sales in about a year and a half.
From looking at XTube, PornoTube, Gay.com chat, etc. I have not seen anyone call it the "Fleshjack" it's always "Fleshlight."

It's designed for men. Or at least it looks that way. So why have 2 products of the same thing? I have never got this concept.

Secondly, I have emailed affsupport@fleshlightcash.com on 2 occasions to change our payout name on checks and have never been acknowledged. And recurring sales checks are still coming in under the same payout name.

Derek,

I apologize for the payout name on checks.

If you have any affiliate inquiries, please feel free to e-mail me or send me a message via ICQ.

daniel@fleshlight.com
daniel@fleshjack.com
ICQ: 431706235

[fleshjack]

I was going to say...Daniel is the rep for Fleshjack that I know of and he has been simply amazing in every way.

Maybe they just needed a healthy employee turnover? They recently had one and I have had nothing but praise.

Thanks Jesse!

I'm trying my best

[derekt]

they want us to forgive and forget.

We won't promote them anymore. As I said, it seems pointless to promote one product over the other when they are both the same exact products.
Things seem a little too out of desperation now. :uhoh: