One Thing That I Do Find Interesting About All This 2257 / FSC / DOJ Stuff

[EmporerEJ]

EmporerEJ - i'm in california, and the fsc has never had a representitive at any webmaster lunch or any function where they could open webmasters' eyes about what it is they do. if you want to see them, you have to go to them.

Well, I've seen them at the trade shows....

[basschick]

that is, i hear, where one does see them. but there are a LOT of webmasters who don't go to trade shows.

[GLBTcity]

that is, i hear, where one does see them. but there are a LOT of webmasters who don't go to trade shows.

Is that the FSC fault tho basschick?

There is way to much speculation about the FSC in more ways than one. Many people don't know of them, what they do, why they do what they do, who they represent, who/what they're in bed with, and so on.

We have total access by email and phone and a vast number of attorney's that we can speak with about topics.

The newsletter is very informative in itself.

I'm not saying that they are "all mighty", but worth investigating/looking into.

They are representatives of the Adult Industry, not Gay Adult Industry. We're all in the same boat. The gay adult industry is however in fact extremely small in comparison to the str8 side of the business.

I don't tell people they should or should not join the FSC, that isn't my place. I also don't go around preaching about them to others.

As adult business owners, no one person has the capital necessary to fight this alone or pay the attorney fee's involved. The FSC is probably one of the industry's best friends and certainly all I could hope for.

I haven't heard of anyone else hiring an attorney and trying to combat the new regs other than the FSC.

PapaBear

[Squirt]

Is that the FSC fault tho basschick?

There is way to much speculation about the FSC in more ways than one. Many people don't know of them, what they do, why they do what they do, who they represent, who/what they're in bed with, and so on.

Listen.. it's easy to jump on the bandwagon like everyone else in this industry.. it takes balls to sit back and look at the situation objectively.

I never have, and never will, put my endorsement on anything until I fully investigate it.

There have been many red flags raised regarding the current FSC situation.. valid points like press releases telling the community a deal has been struck but they wont tell us until the next day but you should join FSC in the meantime. Statements by the FSC regarding the TRO court date today and being prepaired... yet now there is a delay.. etc etc. I've pointed other things out in threads here.

I'm not against the FSC but they have to answer publicly to some of these important issues before they have my support.

[basschick]

yes, imo it is the fsc's fault.

if you have an organization that wants more members, you go to where you can find potential members. if you wait for people who don't know who you are to come to you, you'll be waiting a looooong time.

if you have a company who wants money, you go to where people who might give you money are. you advertise, you market, you network.

if you have a message - say free speech for all - that you want to get to the greatest number of people, you also go to where the people are.

webinc has sarah working all the boards, and as a result, we have a face to put on webinc. she makes us aware of them, and she does it not by advertising but be being a presence - and a darn nice one!

ccbill used to have kk. now she's pretty contraversial, but whether you like her or not, she is a big presence in our industry. she answered questions, and acted as a liason between the webmasters and ccbill - and did a great job.

if you want people's support and money, you have to take the action to bring yourself to their attention. ask any affiliate program - they don't wait for people to find them...

rant is over now - you can all go back to your regular thread

[MisterMark]

The bottom line is that if you're a member of the FSC, you will be protected for the next couple of months. If you're not a member, you're not protected.

Whine all you want about the FSC. They've done more to fight the new regs than anyone else, and I'm grateful for that.

[EmporerEJ]

The bottom line is that if you're a member of the FSC, you will be protected for the next couple of months. If you're not a member, you're not protected.

Whine all you want about the FSC. They've done more to fight the new regs than anyone else, and I'm grateful for that.

Well, that sounds nice, But I'd like to see that prosecution happen.

But I agree; They have done more to fight it than anyone else.
We'll see how it goes. I think they're moving int he right direction. If they start doing what other groups in EVERY OTHER industry do, then they will have something.

I think what you are seeing here is the way they have "rubbed us wrong" in the past.