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Browsing through old threads here, I came across an interesting remark by someone (I think it was ABostonBoy), saying that some gay guys like watching str8 porn, as well as gay porn. Makes me wonder, is selling str8 porn, in the same niche, a good idea? For example, if I have gay ebony traffic, should I try and give them a link to gay str8 porn every now and then? or would that just upset some people and not generate any sales?
..."straights are bodies..err..people too!"... :fool:
the majority of my models are "straight" so i've always sold "straight" to gays
jim
*shameless spam shameless spam*
Well, we have AmateurCollegeSex.com, which is straight sex but with the focus being on the guys - hot guys, camera pays attention to guys, all about what the guys look like while having sex and watching them get it on and get off, with some bi videos mixed in as well.
Undoubtedly there are plenty of people who have no interest in seeing that stuff whatsoever. Some of our gay members would rather gauge out their own eyes with spoons before seeing a girl in their porn. But others have been extremely enthusiastic about it, and the site is selling extremely well. So there definitely is an audience out there who is up for watching straight sex, so long as the guy is hot. We even had a ton of emails from people expressing how they enjoy watching straight sex with hot guys MORE than gay sex with the same guys.
And I know that a few years back, when they were actually still updating the site, myself and a ton of my friends absolutely loved CollegeFuckFest.com because they almost always had really hot guys, even though it's obviously a site focused on the girls. I even knew a bunch of gay webmasters who were promoting it to their gay traffic with good results.
I think that as long as you're upfront in warning your traffic, "Hey... the guys here are super hot but just to let ya know, it's girls they're havin sex with" you're good to go.
agreed with some of the points brought up by c*rbinfisher (i need my eyes to photograph) , not everyone is keen on seeing "guy-girl" sex and those of us that can prefer to see more "closeup's" of the guys than the girls.
either way a link "wanna'see more?" wouldn't hurt :thumbsup:
:) , i know quite shameless , i'll try and be a bit more discreet. :fool:
I will add my $0.02 I am one of those gays that likes straight porn! With hot guys. I think one of my favorite porn sites is mrbigdickshotchicks.com The guy is super hot, and he fucks the hell out of the chicks which is a big part of the turn on for me.
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Originally Posted by CorbinFisher_BD
Hmmmmm. Could that be because gay men can pick up on the fact that when straight men are just having sex with other men for the paycheck, they aren't having nearly as much fun, therefor they make no connection with the other guy?
It makes total sense that it would be more enjoyable to watch a str8 guy have sex with a chick, because--news flash--that's what he's INTO in the first place. HellO! LOL! :)
Sorry, just being facetious. You know I kid, Brian. Love you. Muah! :)
I have to say, though... that's one of my main problems with using gay-for-pay models. I've been on the sets and seen how it works, and it's NOT hot in the least. It's the rare instance where a str8 model actually gets into his scene with another guy--and that's usually only b/cuz he's secretly bi to begin with but claims he is str8 to either A) appease his wife or girlfriend, or B) b/cuz it makes "good marketing."
I've never thought there was anything hot about watching anyone have sex with someone they don't want to have sex with. It feels seedy and manipulative and just, well, gross to me. But that's just me. Some gay men love that shit. It's twisted to me, but as it is often said, there is simply no accounting for taste. ;)
Ooooo, thanks for the link! Me likey!Quote:
Originally Posted by deanb
I used to have a thing for the MilfHunter and I managed to sell a few memberships to my gay surfers. I also tend to watch a lot of straight porn since we subscribed to TEN on dishnetwork a couple of months ago. I like the large selection of HUGE uncut cocks that straight porn offers. I guess during all of my years as a "straight" man I developed a way to block out the women and their anatomy and just concentrate on the guy.
Now I have a massive crush on Ben English and his perfect cock and round bubble butt.
Just look at that ass!!!! I'm sure he's just waiting for me to bury my dick in it. Lol.
Well I think we've seen such success with our AmateurCollegeSex.com site for a number of reasons.
One of the key things we do - as well as many other amateur porn sites do, in stark contrast to what you see from many of the major video studios - is present our models to the audience as themselves. On our site, you see John Doe having sex. You are introduced to him, get to know him, and follow him along the different things he does on the site and the new experiences he has. As opposed to seeing John Doe pretending to be a sailor in this movie, a soldier in the next movie, and a frat boy in his 3rd movie. It's one of the reasons why, despite what some models that we stop working with end up doing for other companies after us, people continue to see them as "John Doe from CorbinFisher.com". In that big studio DVD release, he's playing a character. On our site, he's being himself.
As a result, that leads to people wanting to see as much as possible of certain models and really getting connected to them. They want to see their bonus, candid footage we include at the end of a video. They want to see them get a BJ. They want to see them fuck. They want to see them fuck guys and girls. They can't get enough of their favorite models.
Part of how we present the models is showing just how enthusiastically sexual they are. A video in which a straight guy is getting fucked for the first time, stays there stiff as a board with his face showing obvious discomfort, suffering through it all for the paycheck is a worthless video for us. We won't film that, much less release that.
One of the reasons I think CorbinFisher.com has seen such success is, yes, most of our models are straight, but at the same time we encourage the guys to not only open themselves up to but also demonstrate real enthusiasm, pleasure, and even intimacy. We encourage kissing, mutual pleasure, "returning the favor", pleasuring one another, as opposed to having some guy with fists clenched and eyes shut tight barely managing to withstand a bj.
That enthusiasm carries over to the AmateurCollegeSex.com site, too. It's about observing someone's sexual prowess and seeing how great they look in action - any and all action.
Ultimately, though, it all comes down to whether the guy is hot enough. If a guy's hot enough, people would enjoy watching them swim, play sports, sit around and do nothing, or talk on the phone. So, seeing that guy have sex? Of course they're gonna like it.
The way I like to put it is if you were sleeping in your bed on one side of your college dorm room and woke up in the middle of the night to see your roommate having sex with his girlfriend across the room from you, would you watch? Would you find it hot? If a super hot neighbor of yours that you've had the hots for a long time was having (straight) sex with the blinds open and you were able to see all of what they were doing from your bedroom window, would you turn away? Hell naw. It's hot. I sure as hell loved Brad Pitt's sex scene in Troy despite it being with a girl. It was hot!
If it can be hot watching a hot guy jerk off (and the success of many solo sites is testament to that) it's also no mystery as to how hot it can be to see a hot guy have sex with a guy or with a girl. :)
That also requires using the mute button lol. Cuz damn, them straight porn directors sure seem to like their female models loud. It bypasses sexy and heads straight in to absurdly comical!Quote:
Originally Posted by Xstr8guy
One of the funniest things about our straight sex site was having to coach the girls we were working with to keep the noise down. They just figured we'd want them to huff and puff and rant and rave and moan and groan and scream and whimper at the top of their lungs with every thrust received but we had to be like "Noooo... this video is about the GUY! So... keep it down! Loose lips sink ships!"
To give things a different perspective...
I'm a straight chick, and after getting into the gay porn market I have found that I actually like watching two guys go at it if they are both into it. I think it's cool, and really enjoy it.
Straight porn videos have sound? I thought they were all silent films. Lol. Of course the sound is the first thing to go! Then it's fast forward through the pussy licking and lesbian scenes. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by CorbinFisher_BD
Goddamn, he looks hot as fuck here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xstr8guy
http://mrbigdickshotchicks.com/main/...helle/left.jpg
I'd watch this hot guy having str8 sex anyday. Preferably with ass shots from behind!
..."it's because it's still 2 guys (kinda'a hetrosexual male fantasy but with 2 women) , try "liking" it with 2 women"... :fool:Quote:
Originally Posted by KissMe
jim
To me the important thing is that the actors look like like they're enjoying what they're doing - straight or gay.
That's why I've never much like the 'gay for pay' dudes. Too often they look like they'd rather being anywhere else in the world that where they are or they look like they're thinking of their grocery list(Jeff Stryker, anyone?)
I mean this is particularly true of the some of the gay porn coming of Eastern Europe these days. Nothing but a bunch of limp dicked unhappy people on screen. :fucked: And this crap sells?
Wow, interesting thread! I guess I'm glad I'm promoting the new CF site ;) seems like the best option around at this point for offering str8 porn to gay surfers. Works especially well with my traffic being mostly hunks/college types. I may actually give some thugs/gangbang/interracial sites a try with my gay black porn. I think the ultimate in the black thug stereotype is seeing them being rough and horny with some blonde chick.
I wonder if maybe I should opt for boyish looking girls, with flat chests? lol just kidding.
One very interesting point there is that I think a site like CF's Amateur College Sex might appeal to women. I always stayed away from marketing "for women" porn, because I used to think it's too boring (the guys were always too gentle and considerate for my taste). I wonder if this could work better. Not sure really, but might be worth a try...