The guy is real hot sexy too! Seems he has good taste - what do you think?
The guy is real hot sexy too! Seems he has good taste - what do you think?
It looks like nothing more than a friendly greeting to me. But his sexuality has been questioned for many many years. So who knows?
If I'm to believe the rumors from the people I trust..
John Travolta likes very thin, emaciated twink boys.
That guy looks too manly.:frog: :bullcrap:
He's at least swung both ways. :innocent:
But that fella's a nice choice if there was anything to make of the pic. Not that it matters; I'm pretty indifferent to celebrity bedroom habits.
He is involved in the new Hairspray remake so maybe this will be his year to come out.
Like any of us really care what stars are in the closet or not, but still a bit interesting.
I think it's more then a casual hello between friends. Kissing on the cheek yeah, for Europeans, but not arm around the waist, hand on the back and kissing on the lips :high:
I don't get any kisses on my cheeps from my friends - darn - I life in the wrong European Country :D
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Originally Posted by DEVELISH
Hops plane to ye good ole Goldcoast
a friendly kiss on the lips?! come on....:shock:
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Originally Posted by Xstr8guy
They are not even kissing in this photo.
In the smaller one Travolta has both feet on the step. Assume this is where a friendly hug took place. Then in the large photo we see him backing down the steps, letting go of the rail and pulling away from his friend as a momentarily awkward position is caught on film.
And I doubt they were in a lip lock just before this either. I don't think the photographer would have missed such a photo opportunity.
Wasn't it Paul Baressi who claimed to have been John's lover for many years?
Actually, to set the record "gay" - so to speak - Paul BARRESI was John's trainer for a significant period of time and claimed to have a little fling going with John. It was Paul who "outed" John which brought the world down on Paul.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick
John, being a Scientologist, used his "religion" to "straighten" out the entire incident and make it all go away. Paul was subsequently banned from doing any major media stuff which pushed him further into the porn world.
This is all according to Paul Barresi, our colleague and the man who "discovered" Anthony DeAngelo and Cameron Cruise. The man who shot our first scene for Pleasure Productions in 1999 - BONERFIDE STUDS.
So there you have it!
If you want any more dirt, we sat next to Tori Spelling at lunch yesterday - the booth right next to us - at the Nosh in BH - overheard some post Emmy Stuff....
wuh? is that not the secret "hand shake" reserved for the members of the Super Adventurers Club ?
What magazine was that picture from?
*eyes closed, lights off & stabbing air*
The National Enquirer ?
Just a guess.
It was in the National Enquirer. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by LavenderLounge
The stories of John's sexuality in this town (Hollywood) are quite legendary by now. One story I heard was that he liked to take young pretty things up in his personal plane for trysts. Interesting that this pic is taken an an airport... ;) Of course, maybe John's growing up, and this guy reflects that.
It's also obvious to anyone with a brain that Kelly Preston, John's beard -- um, wife -- is not the most feminine woman in the world, and has played NUMEROUS gay roles in her career. Like 5 or 6 of them. Coincidental that she keeps accepting -- or perhaps going after -- these types of roles? You decide. :)
I don't think it's possible to say what kind of kiss this is. Lovers kiss very quickly on the lips as well. That pic could mean anything. But the whole European thing doesn't jive with me: John's American. And European men kiss on the cheek, not on the lips, right? :)
Anyway, I think it's funny to hear someone say "Who cares if John Travolta is gay?" Everyone cares. Celebrities in that league -- the A-listers league -- coming out would have a pretty big impact on how the world at large views gay people based on their "personas." If Tom Cruise were to come out, just think about the public impact that would have. Rock Hudson coming out did a lot to shatter stereotypes in the '80s. Ditto for Greg Louganis. I think that by and large the world has realized that gay people come in all shapes, sizes, colors, and varieties of personality (queeny vs. masculine, etc.), but if major A-list celebrities were to come out, it would have a profound impact on not only the way the maintream viewed us, but also how some of us view ourselves.
Not that I need a celebrity to validate my sexuality. But it's certainly nice to have them on our side and in the public eye.
Travolta's in the "A-listers" league... for real? I haven't seen one of his movies in the past 10 years. I just assumed that no one else has either. ;)Quote:
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Originally Posted by Paco
OMG!!! Has that aired yet? I need to see that.
It was last year's season premier.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonMike
You're right
They aren't kissing
They are just face to face, arm and arm, puckering their lips as if they were kissing.
You're right
We all know photographers never miss the perfect shot where everything comes together - they must not have been kissing at all. There's absolutely no proof here. They just look like two perfectly normal straight buddies holding eachother like normal straight guys do. :disguise:
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Originally Posted by Matt 26z
A list actors coming out only shows the general public that Gay men are greedy and sneaky by pretending to be straight and lying to the world, too ashamed to be themselves because of a severe lack of integrity. Tom Cruise coming out would just be a big "he's really gone off the deep end now!" he heQuote:
Originally Posted by XXXWriterDude
The Gay people who have a big impact are the Rosie O'donnel's , K D Langs, Ellens, etc. etc. etc. People who, before A listing, show their true colors and still go for it. Also people with a big impact are A list straight stars supporting the Gay community. That's just my take on it :bunny:
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Originally Posted by Squirt
I don't think it has anything to do with greed.
How many webmasters on this very board just posted that they have not told their families that they are in porn? Does that make them sneaky too? Does that mean they are ashamed of what they do or who they are? What's the difference between a webmaster who works in porn but doesn't want to tell his or her parents that he or she traffics in sex and the gay actor who doesn't tell the entire world he or she is gay?
The sad fact of the matter is that in this country, openly gay people DON'T make it to the A-list category. And what if your dream was always to be a movie star? Or even just to have the opportunity to play romantic leads? What if all it really boils down to is the fact that a gay person wants to have the same opportunities to play certain types of roles -- or to have their music heard by the widest possible audience -- as everybody else?
Who's really at fault here? The person who just wants to have a career, or the country we live in for forcing them to keep quiet about their sexuality?
I really think the gay community really needs to get over this practice of attacking stars who stay in the closet. Not everybody needs to be a role model. Some people just want to be actors or musicians and be done with it and not have to deal with making statements for an entire group of people. Don't you think? We thrust all this reponsibility and judgment upon them, when really, we should just shut up and let them live their lives and not condemn them for being "greedy" or "ashamed" or having no integrity. I bet most of them have LOTS of integrity.
That's just MY take on it. :)
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Originally Posted by XXXWriterDude
Oh you're changing topic. Yeah if someone wants to be an actor and lie about who they really are to the world that is up to them. Hell I'd probably lie to the world for hundreds of millions of dollars too - that is what A-listers make these days over a carreer, and we are talking about A-listers.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXXWriterDude
Lots of people lie, cheat, steal etc. to get to the top. Actors are no different but you said "Anyway, I think it's funny to hear someone say "Who cares if John Travolta is gay?" Everyone cares. Celebrities in that league -- the A-listers league -- coming out would have a pretty big impact on how the world at large views gay people based on their "personas."
See YOU are the one who puts A-list actors coming out on a pedastal as making "a pretty big impact on how the world at large views gay people". I disagree. I'm not attacking them or their decission, but I don't feel their decision is a noble one, as I don't feel coming out after you've reached the top is noble either. Usually it's done out of desperation and to protect losses, or they've simply reached the top and have nothing to lose now.
Let's face it. If you're looking for people with strong moral character and conviction, the acting/entertainment community isn't the first place you'd look.
People will do what they do and when society is ready for change it happens.
you can find more info here http://www.canada.com/topics/enterta...01bf99&k=32224Quote:
Originally Posted by LavenderLounge
National Enquirer Canada photo coming out this September 11th
People will come out when they are good and ready. For some, they might not feel ready until they are established in the industry. For some, it may be because of parents or family. If you are not famous and you move away from your parents and come out to everybody around you, your folks may never find out and if they are the only people you don't want to tell then you have that right. If you are a celebrity and you come out in a magazine or tv interview, everybody knows and your parents will find out.
Being an actor or a musician is a job. One of the things that come with the territory is a lack of privacy. Do you think that just because someone is famous they don't deserve privacy anymore? They have to do whatever they can to keep what little privacy they have.
I'm thrilled when a big name star comes out or is just openly gay, but at the same time I respect anyone's decision to do what they feel they need to do. I don't think it's right to out someone or to insist they come out and be angry that they don't. It's up to every individual to make that assesment themselves.
And in regards to the fact that A-list stars' carreers are in jeparody if they come out, the sad fact is that this may be true. Squirt, would you put all of your hard work, effort and money on the line for a principal? That's what you're asking these people to do. Let's say you were asked to make a statement to the press about an issue that could take away everything you've worked for. Even if you truely believed in this statement and felt the world should know, would you be willilng to risk it all? If every gay actor in Hollywood, A-list or otherwise, would come out at once, it would have a huge impact on our society and culture. It may even pave the way for equality for all actors regardless of sexuality, but the ones on the front lines who start the ball rolling could easily be written off by the Hollywood machine. Sure it would be great to know that your actions today will affect people 20 years from now in a very positive way, but by doing it you may never work again. Now, there's something to think about.
Ok, this is an old picture... what september 2005 or 2004?
If something were to happen it would have happened ....
I'm not putting them on a pedestal; I'm just recognizing how the REST of the country thinks. If Tom Cruise were to come out as gay -- or rather, if he had come out when people still respected him -- that would have had a huge impact on how lots of people in the mainstream viewed gay people. He's a huge international sex symbol for men and women. Every big, tough, macho buff guy who blows up buildings and gets the girl in the movies who came out would, by and large, have some kind of influence in how society views gay and lesbians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirt
However, as much as I think it would be AWESOME if Tom or John or whoever would come out of the closet, I don't think they have an obligation to do so. I don't judge them or look down at them for not doing so. I simply recognize that they have their own paths to walk, and their own choices to make. And to me, that's the end of it. All the best to them.
Just like Ellen did. Just like Rosie did. Just like Melissa did. Just like Elton did. Just like Ian McKellen did. These are our role models, but it's worth noting that not a single one of them was out at the beginning of their careers. Had they been, it would have been a much different story.Quote:
disagree. I'm not attacking them or their decission, but I don't feel their decision is a noble one, as I don't feel coming out after you've reached the top is noble either. Usually it's done out of desperation and to protect losses, or they've simply reached the top and have nothing to lose now.
Nobility is a luxury that you can't afford when you have a goal that is unattainable due to a sexual preference you didn't choose to be born with. Gay or straight, we're all entitled to the same things.
You don't see the irony in this statement -- coming from someone in the, um, PORN business? ;)Quote:
Let's face it. If you're looking for people with strong moral character and conviction, the acting/entertainment community isn't the first place you'd look.
Exactly. I can definitely agree with that. Until then, let's not look at those who walk their own paths as being "less noble" or as having "a lack of integrity." It's not up to the rest of us to place those kinds of judgments on them. We've all been there. Most of us weren't out in high school. We lied to get through. It was simply a matter of necessity. Hopefully, one day the world WILL change, and gay actors, musicians, politicians, etc. etc. will all have the same opportunities as their straight counterparts. I look forward to that day. :)Quote:
People will do what they do and when society is ready for change it happens.
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Originally Posted by IdolKnights
Ahhh, but Ian McKellen was not out in the beginning of his career, nor was he ever trying to be a romantic lead.
I'm talking of the Jake Gyllenhaals, Heath Ledgers, Josh Lucases and Tom Cruises of the world. Young actors just making a start of it and trying to have healthy, prosperous careers with the opportunity to play ANY type of role they want -- not just wizards and evil mutants. ;)
I have put everything on line before due to principal and paid dearly for it and I'd do it again but I don't have hundreds of millions of dollars to lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonMike
I'm not asking anyone to do anything. I said that I could understand people staying in the closet for hundreds of millions of dollars.
People do what they do and when society is ready it will change.
Not all of them lie. When asked, both Ricky Martin and Rosie O'Donnell would say "no comment" when asked about their sexuality. While Ricky poses with women for photo ops, he won't say he's straight, so he's not lying.
Funny how Rosie didn't admit her sexuality for years and kept it a secret, yet when Star Jones kept her weight loss surgery a secret, Rosie attacked her for it.
I don't even think it should necessarily be limited to those who makes hundreds of millions of dollars. Openly gay actors, by and large, get relegated to playing -- go figure -- gay roles. Or small supporting roles like guest shots on TV shows. They are seldom given the opportunity to stretch their acting muscles, because studio execs say that people can't believe gay men playing romantic leads. Again, I really think it's just a matter of gay actors and/or musicians being able to have careers that challenge and fulfill them, just like we are all entitled to, regardless of our sexual orientations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirt
It really boils down to what kind of career you want to have. If you're an actor who's just happy to work and you don't care what kinds of roles you're getting, then it's OK to be openly gay from the start, but you essentially prepare yourself for the strong possibility that your sexuality is going to be a deterrent to you going up for the same parts as, say, Brad Pitt. Some of us (actors, writers, musicians, etc. etc.) just want more than that, and it actually has very little to do with money.
Still agree with this. ;)Quote:
People do what they do and when society is ready it will change.
Actually, that pic was taken this year. If you read the caption in the lower left-hand corner, it mentions Hairspray, which John just signed on to do earlier this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toni_Enzo
But yeah, you're right. If something were going to happen with this story, it would have happened by now.
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What are you talking about, it clearly states September 11th 200- in the lower right corner of the picture. So it can not be 2006!
Take another look at the bottom of the right corner.
Magazines are dated in advance of actual publicationQuote:
Originally Posted by Toni_Enzo
This is for the Enquirer to be released 9-11-2006
You didn't read my "for more information" post in this thread? http://www.canada.com/topics/enterta...01bf99&k=32224
Yeah, I just learned that the magazine has yet to be released and, in fact, this story is slowly beginning to break. Last night on Bill Maher's Real Time, Maher brought it up in his opening remarks. Apparently the picture is starting to get a lot of attention online. I Googled "John Travolta gay kiss" and all kinds of blog entries and stuff came up.
It should be interesting to see how thsi progresses, if it gets anymore mainstream attention, and how Travolta explains it away -- or doesn't. I would think his camp would be quick to offer some kind of explanation.
It would be interesting to see if Entertainment Weekly covers it.
I like how the Indo-Asian news service plays it down, though they are cultural more accepting of homosexuality and male/male affection:Quote:
Originally Posted by XXXWriterDude
"Actor John Travolta seems to be taking his cross-dressing role for the upcoming movie Hairspray too far.
According to contactmusic.com, he was caught kissing a male friend. And he didn't seem to care if any one else noticed as he embraced and kissed a friend as they stepped into his private jet.
Travolta's reps are playing down the kiss saying that his wife was on the plane at that time."
Is it possible that the publics reaction to an Alister coming out/being caught out, might depend on who the Alister is? Maybe Brokeback has softened the hearts of some in the hetro community?