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Hey everyone,
This site is using a whole bunch of our RandyBlue content and, once again, CCBill is doing absolutely nothing about it. You all may want to check to see if they're using any of your exclusive content.
http://www.gorgeousboys.com/
Anyone know these guys?
Wow, I can hear the crickets.
Is it still lunchtime???
It's slow today man :rip:Quote:
Originally Posted by DonMike
I don't know who they are.
The only thing I could find for contact, other then their whois is this http://www.lambdabusiness.com/page-b...03&searchtext= if it's them.
This is their host http://cwie.net
What did CCBill say when you contacted them?
I didn't talk to them but Randy did. Basically, they're not willing do to anything about it. I didn't hear the conversation myself but I wish someone from CCBill would speak up here and let me know why, between two different sites posted on this board this week with known stolen content, why it's permissible to work with these people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirt
Is there a board mainly geared towards content producers?Quote:
Originally Posted by DonMike
I find when we have important issues not related to traffic or site design there aren't many responses because most board members are not content producers.
If content producers banded together and let affiliates and billing companies know this is no longer acceptable, maybe things would change?
I think it's an open statement to anyone needing content for their site... if you bill through CCBill, just find and take what you like.
It's been tried a few times. The issue is WHY POST ON A FORUM IF I CAN'T SPAM MY CONTENT TO THE OTHER USERS!Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirt
So many things content producers can share with eachother. Techniques, networking, hiring, model sharing etc etcQuote:
Originally Posted by IdolKnights
What's particularly interesting is CCBill isn't willing to take action when a well-established industry company complains about copyright infringement, for which CCBill (who, in this case is both webhost and processor) could become legally liable if they fail to act under DMCA, but on the other hand, CCBill is immediately willing to pull the plug on processing for a site over a *trademark dispute* which doesn't involve any DMCA issues and doesn't otherwise involve them in any way.
I think it depends on who you're speaking to at CCBill. If Patrick were still there, you could probably get something done.
Hello DonMike
Frankly I am shocked that they are selling a site at fifty bucks a month, advertising well known models as being online and awaiting the next new sucker subscriber. That really annoys me, almost as much as pop-unders and redirections, for it ruins it for the rest of the industry.
I had a few extra free minutes and thought I would try to research the owners of the site for you.
Via the "join" page, there is an option for sending a check. Of course there is no google listing for "hudson business interests". May I suggest you contact the local government to inquire the ownership of the DBA? The city of Lenoir, resides in the North Carolina county of Lenoir.
http://www.ci.lenoir.nc.us/ --> city
http://www.co.lenoir.nc.us --> county
I hope that will be of some help.
I agree Chip and I am also very surprised they would not take action against something like this. Hopefully they will chime in so we can hear their reasoning.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaybucks_chip
Mark
And you know, I would love for them to prove me wrong. Maybe there's a misunderstanding, maybe they really are working on a solution and just not able to talk about it. I'm very open to hearing what they have to say. I have no ill will towards CCBill at all, I just want something to be done, or an answer as to why it's not.
hi guys, we have a specific procedure for this sort of issue, more details here:
http://businesscenter.ccbill.com/htm...copyright.html
What is the procedure used for a habitual violator??Quote:
Originally Posted by corvett
What happens to a company that has stolen content and several complaints? I hope the answer is not "Send a DMCA and we will notify the owner and ask them to take it down"
At some point I would expect CC Bill and every reputable billing company to drop a serial pirate, but what is that point???
Thank you for responding.Quote:
Originally Posted by corvett
Thank you for elaborating.Quote:
Originally Posted by chadknowslaw
chad, we follow the DMCA, as an attorney, you know the provision in the DMCA for repeat offenders...we open ourselves up to liability if we dont follow the DMCAQuote:
Originally Posted by chadknowslaw
i guess the first question here would be whether this is a repeat offender (have there been any dmca notices sent to us about this client?), from this thread it appears as if this step has not been done.
We're in the process of putting a formal complaint together now. And hoping this thread will get some other producers to do the same so we can make some sort of an impact. My apologies if my posts seem a bit harsh, but when we called about this we felt we were met with an attitude that there was not much that could be done.
And considering that sexymendirectory.net is still up after several complaints, it makes me wonder how many DMCA's need to be sent before sites like these get pulled. I will say that when we had our issue with them in the past, they were finally made to pull our content from their site. Which was great until they just went and got more. How's that for irony, they're made to take down the old content of ours that they stole, and for all their troubles they get to add new stolen content. So, we'll go ahead and send in those DMCA's and see what happens. And I encourage anyone else here who is having the same issue to do the same.
And special thanks to Chad for taking a stand in this, as well.
chad, i re-read my post and please forgive my tone, sounding that way was not intentional :)Quote:
Originally Posted by corvett
Oh honey, you gotta be WAAAY more bitchy than that to hurt my feelings!!Quote:
Originally Posted by corvett
haha, just making sure, brotherQuote:
Originally Posted by chadknowslaw
btw, congrats on the anniversary, thats a very big deal