Charles Barkley ~ Gay marriage ~ CNN WOW!

Hillary Clinton just got an endorsement by Magic Johnson today, and CNN being biased didn't cover that, but rather the endorsement of Obama by Charles Barkley. For some reason Wolf Blitzer decided just now to do a live interview with him.

Barkley goes on to say how the conservatives aren't real Christians because they judge people and how Gay people should be allowed to get married because it's nobodys business what they do in private. Wolf Blitzer then tried to make Barkley backpeddle by pointing out he'll probably be attacked for this and he said "I don't care they don't pay my bills" I LOVE IT!

I just watched this live and go figure it's already on Google news.. check out what they say:
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NBA legend Charles Barkley took some time on Friday to throw his support behind presidential hopeful Barack Obama and then added a few choice jabs at the Christian right, calling many of them hypocrites for judging others.

Barkley appeared in an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN on Friday and gave reasons behind his support for Obama over Hillary Clinton and then quickly moved into his personal support for gay marriage and a woman’s right to choose.

It was the latter two issues that Barkley berated the Christian right, declaring the formidable group were hypocrites for passing judgment on others, in apparent conflict with their very beliefs.

Blitzer asked Barkley if he was comfortable with the remarks he made and warned him that he would likely get several responses about his comments to which Barkley shrugged of saying, “I don’t work for them.”

Asked why he supported Obama over Clinton the 11-time NBA All-Star noted the need for more black role models outside the arena of sports and entertainment. Barkley took exception to the argument that Obama didn’t carry enough foreign policy experience by noting that the Illinois senator would be surrounded by advisers who would be skilled in such areas. source



What are your thoughts?

The whole media has been playing favorites this election, and are essentially choosing our president for us. CNN has gotten almost just as bad as Fox News supporting one candidate.

Just today there is an article on Cnn about sexism and racism, and had a picture of someone at a Hillary event holding up a sign that said "Iron my Clothes"

First that was months ago, and do you really think that if it would have been at an Obama event and the sign had said "Shine my Shoes" they would ever be showing it?

wow - i think it's been years since ANYONE has had this kind of balls in the public eye. go, charlse barkley!

missed your post before, dean.

it's a LOT more acceptable to insult women than to insult black people. no news there. and not only is the news choosing for us, they're also telling us why senators and congress people do things - even though they haven't spoken with them. that allows them to imbue their every act with motives to direct people's beliefs even though in reality the motivation is completely made up by the media.

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The whole media has been playing favorites this election, and are essentially choosing our president for us. CNN has gotten almost just as bad as Fox News supporting one candidate.

Just today there is an article on Cnn about sexism and racism, and had a picture of someone at a Hillary event holding up a sign that said "Iron my Clothes"

First that was months ago, and do you really think that if it would have been at an Obama event and the sign had said "Shine my Shoes" they would ever be showing it?

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Coming from Charles Barkley I'm not surprised, he's quite outspoken

but the media's darling right now is Obama, that's clear as a day

one thing that pisses me off is this pseudo agent of change shit coming from Obama yet he doesn't want Florida delegates to count! I wonder if he were to get nominated would he come to Florida and ask for votes then!

and then there are the moron dems who threw a hissy fit and decided florida votes won't count ... some change

can't wait till we get closer to November when the campaigning gets dirty ...

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it's a LOT more acceptable to insult women than to insult black people.

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OH YES! There was a behind the scenes threaten of boycott by Michelle Obama a while back because they felt they were being treated unfairly, then all of a sudden CNN and MSNBC turn into the Obama channels.

If Obama was getting the coverage Hillary is getting now... OH MAN you'd see Sharpton and the NAACP on it like flies on shit.

Hillary is being eaten alive in a way that no other candidate has in U.S. History and I feel that a big reason why is the good old boys wanting to beat up on a girl. Do you think the majority of men in power want a woman telling them what to do?

Notice Obamas message: If you don't vote for me you are either racist, or don't want change. Very divisive. Hillarys message: Vote for someone with experience and proven ability to create change.

Definately not! They aren't even covering the "barack the magic negro" controversy that Rush Limbaugh has created. Watching CNN or MSNBC you wouldn't even know it was happening!

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Originally Posted by deanb

The whole media has been playing favorites this election, and are essentially choosing our president for us. CNN has gotten almost just as bad as Fox News supporting one candidate.

Just today there is an article on Cnn about sexism and racism, and had a picture of someone at a Hillary event holding up a sign that said "Iron my Clothes"

First that was months ago, and do you really think that if it would have been at an Obama event and the sign had said "Shine my Shoes" they would ever be showing it?

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Did you know that yesterday Magic Johnson endorsed Hillary and was speaking at he stadium filled events with her? No, not covered on any channel but Fox.

CNN and MSNBC also glazed over the fact that Obama has paid over $690,000 to super delegates, most of which support him now.

Big mistake on the Florida and Michigan votes and delegates. How on earth could a party decide that two states, and millions of votes, will not count? Ridiculous.

I'm liking Barkleys message. Totally cool. I like this quote from him in an interview he did in 2006 "I think if they want to get married, God bless them," Barkley said. "Gay marriage is probably 1 percent of the population, so it's not like it's going to be an epidemic. Hey, trust me, I'm never going to kiss you and say, 'Chris, you're sexy."' and this one “Religious people in general are so discriminatory against other people, and that really disturbs me. My idea of religion is we all love and respect. We all sin, but we still have common decency and respect for other people. So right now I'm struggling with my idea of what religion is.” source

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Coming from Charles Barkley I'm not surprised, he's quite outspoken

but the media's darling right now is Obama, that's clear as a day

one thing that pisses me off is this pseudo agent of change shit coming from Obama yet he doesn't want Florida delegates to count! I wonder if he were to get nominated would he come to Florida and ask for votes then!

and then there are the moron dems who threw a hissy fit and decided florida votes won't count ... some change

can't wait till we get closer to November when the campaigning gets dirty ...

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Barkley rules! He's always been one to voice his opinion and seems to really have a level head. Plus, his nickname "Round Mound Of Rebound" is one of the best ever imo. :)

--Chubbs

Oh please just a month or so ago the media had decided that Hillary was our next president and they were shoving her down our throats now its "oh poor Hillary they aren't covering her" Personally i think they are both getting the same amount of coverage although i admit that obama may be getting a bit more. you know why? because its a bigger story. Obama comes from behind and is now on a roll. Of course that's news. Hillary is..well the same old thing we've seen for years.

I voted for Obama. I don't watch CNN, or Faux, or any other news station.

It's ironic that Fox news is covering Hillary more than Obama. (Don't know that that is true..haven't been watching those channels..but seems to be the consensus here).

Saw a hysterical cartoon yesterday...had Hillary in one of her store front campaign offices with everyone inside watching a tv with Obama on it..and outside the storefront on the sidewalk was Ann Coulter holding a "Hillary for President" sign..

Hillary goes "We're doomed!"

Obama is a media created story. They created his "momentum" with every news cast. Oddly enough with his "momentum" out of the 9million or so votes they've got each there's about 50,000 votes separating them.

I've been addicted to the coverage since coming back to the U.S. flipping between CNN, MSNBC and Fox. They created his being the victim of racism by the Clintons. And now what's the latest media creation to favor Obama? Supporters randomly fainting during events I'm so sick of corporate controlled media favoring candidates in elections.

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Oh please just a month or so ago the media had decided that Hillary was our next president and they were shoving her down our throats now its "oh poor Hillary they aren't covering her" Personally i think they are both getting the same amount of coverage although i admit that obama may be getting a bit more. you know why? because its a bigger story. Obama comes from behind and is now on a roll. Of course that's news. Hillary is..well the same old thing we've seen for years.

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LOL that's funny. It is ironic about faux news. I was watching them today and they had 5 commentators on about the elections, 3 of which were black. I swear that's the most black people I've seen on faux news at one time ever! Serves them right to have to eat a bit of crow now after being so far right, for so long.

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Originally Posted by Mansized

It's ironic that Fox news is covering Hillary more than Obama. (Don't know that that is true..haven't been watching those channels..but seems to be the consensus here).

Saw a hysterical cartoon yesterday...had Hillary in one of her store front campaign offices with everyone inside watching a tv with Obama on it..and outside the storefront on the sidewalk was Ann Coulter holding a "Hillary for President" sign..

Hillary goes "We're doomed!"

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I am with Squirt on this one. This election is complete bullshit. I am pro-Hillary, but was kinda leaning towards, well I will vote for Obama if he goes to the general election. That all changed when he had the arrogance to say that he is certain he could get every vote Hillary could get, but she couldn't do the same. From that one speech, I don't care if I have a choice between pro-life, anti gay marriage Mike Huckabee and Obama, I will NOT vote for Obama. If it is between electing Bush to a third term (I know, it cannot happen), and Obama, I will be voting for Bush.

First if you look at Barack Obama's voting record, its very clear, he has a record of not voting. Serious issues that need to be voted on, he doesn't vote. He has been in the US senate for 3 years, and spent over a year of that time campaigning for another office. He has little to no experience, it would be like promoting a data entry clerk to CEO of a fortune 500 company, it just doesn't happen.



EDIT: Sorry to be so blunt here, but you think that Hillary can unite the republican party, wait until you have a black man running. They will be out voting in HUGE number for the GOP. Obama also hasn't experienced the Republican attack machine, he says he is ready because he faced the Clinton's, fact is, every time the Clinton's attack him, he, and the media, pull out the race card. In the general election, it won't work, the GOP will not care how much he screams race.

really this time!

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CNN and MSNBC also glazed over the fact that Obama has paid over $690,000 to super delegates, most of which support him now.

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Do you have a source on this? I have a political blog that I would love to include this on.

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Do you have a source on this? I have a political blog that I would love to include this on.

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Nevermind, google is my friend! Got any more? HEHE, haven't seen you on ICQ in a while.

The "election" is a JOKE! Bush ran the country into the ground and his election was a shady scam on the American people.

Do you think it will change now?

Wake up and smell the oil people. Why waste your time with thread?

Nothing is changing...

You have no control...

You have no voice.,,

You are controlled and played.

Lee

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It's ironic that Fox news is covering Hillary more than Obama. (Don't know that that is true..haven't been watching those channels..but seems to be the consensus here).

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not really
Rupert Murdoch held a fund raiser for her.

If anyone thinks Hillary or Bill are liberals I got a bridge on the moon for sale

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not really
Rupert Murdoch held a fund raiser for her.

If anyone thinks Hillary or Bill are liberals I got a bridge on the moon for sale

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If most of her positions are not liberal I would love to know your definition of liberal.

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Do you have a source on this? I have a political blog that I would love to include this on.

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This fact was wildely reported on the national news last week.

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I am with Squirt on this one. This election is complete bullshit. I am pro-Hillary, but was kinda leaning towards, well I will vote for Obama if he goes to the general election. That all changed when he had the arrogance to say that he is certain he could get every vote Hillary could get, but she couldn't do the same. From that one speech, I don't care if I have a choice between pro-life, anti gay marriage Mike Huckabee and Obama, I will NOT vote for Obama. If it is between electing Bush to a third term (I know, it cannot happen), and Obama, I will be voting for Bush.

First if you look at Barack Obama's voting record, its very clear, he has a record of not voting. Serious issues that need to be voted on, he doesn't vote. He has been in the US senate for 3 years, and spent over a year of that time campaigning for another office. He has little to no experience, it would be like promoting a data entry clerk to CEO of a fortune 500 company, it just doesn't happen.



EDIT: Sorry to be so blunt here, but you think that Hillary can unite the republican party, wait until you have a black man running. They will be out voting in HUGE number for the GOP. Obama also hasn't experienced the Republican attack machine, he says he is ready because he faced the Clinton's, fact is, every time the Clinton's attack him, he, and the media, pull out the race card. In the general election, it won't work, the GOP will not care how much he screams race.

really this time!

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Politics are already so dirty..but they can even get dirtier (hard to believe but true!).

We know that if Hillary gets the nomination, it's going to be "suckgate" all over again (The Republicans HATE the Clintons with such tenacity and just won't let go of Monica and company "He lied". Yeah he lied..about a blow job, but not about WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION etc etc etc!)

Ok..I ranted that time Dean..lol..and got off my message.

My fear is that if Obama gets the nomination, it's really going to bring out all the latent racism to the forfront..the Republicans know how to get down and dirty on someone and how to instill fear in people. And you know that they will do everything they can to instill fear in white people about a black man becoming their leader!

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This fact was wildely reported on the national news last week.

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You wouldn't know it searching CNN News for paid superdelegate or
paid super delegate as far as I can tell, it was never covered by them and I didn't see it on any of their reports.

This kind of biased reporting is really going to hurt the Dem. party in the upcoming election. imo

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Nevermind, google is my friend! Got any more? HEHE, haven't seen you on ICQ in a while.

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Yeah where there's always the "I wont take money from lobbyist, and they should be evicted from the white house, but I'll have them work for my campaign and take money from companies that employ them"

The Reps. are going to call him on every one of his contradictions.

Oh and I came across democraticunderground.com ... cool site to talk politics!

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My fear is that if Obama gets the nomination, it's really going to bring out all the latent racism to the forfront..the Republicans know how to get down and dirty on someone ...

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It's already started Barack the magic negro via Rush Limbaugh. It starts about two minutes into the video. It's all absolutely racist, degrading and disgusting.

It was inspiring to hear Obama on CSPAN tonight talking about using Gay people and immigrants as scapegoats for your own problems. Also his deputy campaign director, Steve Hildebrand, is openly Gay and is in a committed relationship.

But for me, Obama has a LOT of convincing to do and his record of not voting in the senate so many times is a record of someone NOT voting for change, because he opted NOT to vote so many times. That's someone stepping back from change for fear of ruining his chances for a presidential run :thumbsup:

If google paid super delegates you will see alot regard the super delegates. For correct facts just read what the major newspapers and tv outlets are reporting.

I asked the question before are the dems going to have a brokered convention?

How far will chillery go to screw over obama?

Last question isn't paying the super delegates the same as buying votes? If that's legal I want some cash too!

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Last question isn't paying the super delegates the same as buying votes? If that's legal I want some cash too!

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LOL same here!

The reason the press is pushing super delegates all of a sudden, and questioning their validity, is because the LOVE Obama, and the super delegates are currently the only thing that can stop him from being the nominee.

Interesting eh? ;)

Obama really says nothing, and that's probably a smart approach to getting elected. Reagan did it all on charisma, and Obama knows that.

But hey, we are debating an election between an old white guy and either a woman or a black man. Hello, is that a bad thing ?

And Charles is my new hero of the day....

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Obama really says nothing, and that's probably a smart approach to getting elected. Reagan did it all on charisma, and Obama knows that.

But hey, we are debating an election between an old white guy and either a woman or a black man. Hello, is that a bad thing ?

And Charles is my new hero of the day....

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I liked what Bill Clinton said about Obama. He said that Obama has an advantage from not having experience, no one doesn't like him yet. LOL

Oh god, where do I start? Well Dean and Squirt - we are on the exact same page here!! Dean, please email me your blog. Would love to read it.

Last week I went to dinner with a friend of mine. He originally supported Edwards and is now supporting Obama. By the end of the night he was so pissed that I was called a racist. Bottom line is that I felt Hillary & Bill got swiftboated in South Carolina and Barack not only sat back and watched it happened he added fuel to the fire. President Clintons remark that Barack's campaign was a fairytale in no way was a shot at race. Anyone with an IQ of 50 would understand he was talking about his positions since Barack hasn't voted for anything ... well because the 5 minutes before were on just that topic.

Thats when I lost all respect for Barack. He is now the polarizing figure. Here is yet another example. David Axelrod, the chief strategist for Obama said yesterday on facethenation that if Obama wins the pledged delegates but ends up losing because of super delegates that the black community will rise up and you will have riots. The black community will not allow this election to be stolen from them.

So this just confirms what I've thought all along. This isn't about electing the best nomineee who will be the best president. This is about the african american community so desperate to have a black president they're willing to settle for second best in order to get it.

I'm sorry, but this is exactly why we, the democratic party, puts so much weight on the super delegates. This about following rules. The rules state the super delegates should be free to select who they think is best for the party. Threatening super delegates with riots, party division, and voter disenfranchisement is NOT an act of unity.

Speaking of following the rules and voter disenfranchisment... it just makes my skin crawl everytime I hear an obama supporter bring up following the rules with Michigan and Florida. Give me a fuckin' break! Hillary did follow the rules that were agreed upon. She did not campaign. Yet she still won by 20% of the vote. It made me sick watching MSNBC act all bewildered when she gave a victory speach. Millions of people voted for her and she shouldn't claim victory? Get real! The only reason Barack pulled his name off the ballot in Michigan is because he knew he would lose. He tried to pull his name in Florida but wasn't allowed to. Ha, nice try! The biggest fairy tale is that the candidates always expected that Florida and Michigan delegates would be seated. There is no way that they can afford to disenfranchise those voters. But now that they actually matter... good grief. You don't have to be superman to see through this bullshit rhetoric.

I just laugh whenever I hear, Barack is polling better than Hillary against McCain or that Barack is ready for the general election fight because Hillary's run an agressive campaign. Are you freaking kidding me??? John Kerry was 15 points ahead of Bush this time 4 years ago. We all know how that ended. Each time Hillary says the slightest thing that is a negative against Barack, she gets berated for 'going negative'. Agressive my ass! Kid gloves is more like it. Barack is gonna get slammed in the general. C'mon folks there is a reason Joe Scarborough and the other republican pundits are gleafully excited about running against Barack. I've said it before, its gonna be like Christmas for them. if we end up nominating this man, come July we're gonna wake up from our fairy tale endused drunken stupor and say oh fuck what did we do!

Saw this on GFY. In all seriousness, people for some reason equate being anti-Obama to being a racist. I don't really understand that at all. Because I am not supporting a black man, doesn't mean I hate black people. I wouldn't support a gay man running with the same qualifications that Obama is running on. He is running on nothing but empty promises and empty dreams.
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Here is a video of Cher in an interview talking about why she supports Clinton, I think it says a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5lGYw6hx_A

LOL that's funny!

Did you see the speech that Obama stole from a former candidate in 2006? If you didn't see the Obama speech here is a video on youtube with Obama first, then the original guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axlBWgZ8F9M

OF COURSE, CNN just glazed over the fact today that all inspiring Obama steels his inspiration, word for word, from the speeches of others. It's just tacky. Oh and also it came out today that he lifted, concept for concept, aspects of hillarys fiscal policy she released back in August of last year.

This isn't the first time either, back in October 2007 "Edwards’s campaign also blasted Obama for parroting the former senator in a foreign policy speech he gave Tuesday in which he said he wanted to work towards ending nuclear proliferation. They said the senator has followed Edwards on a number of issues this campaign year, including healthcare, poverty and now nuclear proliferation." source I bet Edwards will still endorse him regardless. We'll see.

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LOL that's funny!

Did you see the speech that Obama stole from a former candidate in 2006? If you didn't see the Obama speech here is a video on youtube with Obama first, then the original guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axlBWgZ8F9M

OF COURSE, CNN just glazed over the fact today that all inspiring Obama steels his inspiration, word for word, from the speeches of others. It's just tacky. Oh and also it came out today that he lifted, concept for concept, aspects of hillarys fiscal policy she released back in August of last year.

This isn't the first time either, back in October 2007 "Edwards’s campaign also blasted Obama for parroting the former senator in a foreign policy speech he gave Tuesday in which he said he wanted to work towards ending nuclear proliferation. They said the senator has followed Edwards on a number of issues this campaign year, including healthcare, poverty and now nuclear proliferation." source I bet Edwards will still endorse him regardless. We'll see.

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I did see that speech, and of all the news outlets, where did I see it at? PerezHilton.com! LOL

There was about 10 minutes of debate today on MSNBC...basically it was the Clinton campaign having to defend themselves because they called it plagerism. The anchor was all over the Ohio Rep that was backing Hillary. I just can't stand it.

What iritates me more is that because of all of this onesidedness... i find myself making comments last night like... oh good. a terrible snow storm in Wisconsin. fabulous, That'll keep turn out low and better chances for Hillary to upset.

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There was about 10 minutes of debate today on MSNBC...basically it was the Clinton campaign having to defend themselves because they called it plagerism. The anchor was all over the Ohio Rep that was backing Hillary. I just can't stand it.

What iritates me more is that because of all of this onesidedness... i find myself making comments last night like... oh good. a terrible snow storm in Wisconsin. fabulous, That'll keep turn out low and better chances for Hillary to upset.

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I've found that watching Fox news helps, and MSNBC Dan Abrams show. Chris Matthews on MSNBC is also a lot less bias.

For people who are inspired by Obamas amazing speeches, they are never his words. They are the words of his speech writer Ben Rhodes

Dean:

Has Hillary had any rallies up in Dallas yet?

Austin is very much a political town all the time, so living here I've gotten used
to politics and politicians around every corner.

If Texas if the center of primary politics now, Austin may be ground zero. On Saturday night, come dinner time, I got a craving for barbecue. So after the gym, I went to this Bill Miller's BBQ in South Austin, next to the interstate.

Unwittingly I went there, and was astounded that the lot was teaming with cars and people walking around everywhere --- at 8 o'clock at night.

Well, turns out that there is a pretty good sized building next to Bill Millers, which I remember two years ago as being the campaign headquarters for Kinky Friedman for Governor.

Well after standing unused for two years, it's been rented as the Hillary Clinton state campaign headquarters. And the reason the place was teeming at 8 on a Saturday was because our 42nd President was there to officially inaugurate the occasion.

I guess they weren't hungry because no one stopped in for some barbecue. But the Palazzio Gentleman's Club stands a few blocks up the same street. Maybe Bill headed over there afterwards,

Steve

So Michelle Obama, age 45, says "for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country." she then goes on to say "And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment." Video link

So she's angry and dissapointed and hasn't been proud of her country until now, at age 45, when her husband has a chance at being president? Am I missing something?