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He posted on the 'other' board, and he asked for his user name to be deleted there. He seemed like a really nice guy, and I tried searching for him here, does anyone know how to get a hold of him, and perhaps invite him to come over here and play with us? :mexican:
Here's a Myspace link for him:
http://www.myspace.com/takemytaco
and a Youtube profile for him:
http://www.youtube.com/takemytaco
Awesome, thanks, I sent him a message on MyspaceQuote:
Originally Posted by gaybucks_chip
I have him on my MSN. I will talk to him later today.
Speaking of that "other" board I saved some of the many threads that got deleted, I mean censored. Wonder if I should put them on Ebay?
j/k
lloyd
It's great that you saved them. I was hoping someone did.
In the last 36 hours, I've emailed Mark twice and IMed him 3 times. Each time, he's showed online and available, yet he's avoided responding... and this was before JP banned me.
It's a real pity that Mark is allowing JP to run things into the ground over there. I was trying to give Mark a chance to discuss things and talk about what his goals are, as the owner of that community.
I believe that having two healthy gay webmaster communities is a good thing, and I really don't want to see either of them suffer... but I simply don't understand the logic of allowing a "moderator" to repeatedly refer to members of the community as "asshats" and "blubbercunts" and the like. That is, unless the goal is to create another GFY, and that's a rather pointless exercise.
Was that place ever healthy?Quote:
Originally Posted by gaybucks_chip
I think Lee should assimilate some of the cool features.. like the members home pages, galleries, etc. for GWW.
Wait until we launch our Web 2.0 version very soon, its jam-packed with neat features :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirt
Regards,
Lee
It's never been ideal, but I guess what I'm saying is that if Mark actually stepped in and got somebody competent to moderate the thing, or if they actually published a policy of what the rules and policies are as they stand, then at least people would know the ground rules they are working with, and taht would go a long way. There are some great people who post there, but the signal-to-noise is often so over the top, and the threadjacking so common, that it's hard to do any business, or find the useful nuggets of information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirt
It appears, from what I've been able to discern, that under the current moderation policy flaming (including flaming by the moderator) and arguments between two people back and forth are perfectly fine, but trying to get clarity and transparency on the moderation policy is not. One day, Mark says he is against the removal of threads, and in the next 36 hours, 4 threads are removed.
I mean, to each his own and all that, but one of the most frustrating things is a community where the enforcement of policy and rules is completely arbitrary at the whim of the moderator. And the sad thing is, I'm afraid that what will end up happening is that the community will degenerate into a noisefest where the only thing present is drama. If that's what Mark wants, then more power to him... he's well on his way. But I can't imagine that being a successful business model. It works for GFY only because of the volume of traffic they have. I don't think it will work for a smaller webmaster community.
That about sums it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaybucks_chip
The "disappearing" threads just drove me over the edge. If you ever want to read a thread later at GMS make sure you do file save as in FF otherwise there is a REAL good chance the thread will be gone when you go to read it.
I was replying to a joke Adam made in one thread. When I hit the submit button the thread was gone. Talk about censorship. Jeez!
For the record.... takemytaco can take my taco anywhere he wants!
Steve
MINE too. Have you seen HIS Taco?Quote:
Originally Posted by desslock
I haven't, do share! I did see his boxer pics on myspace though! :bananacock: :bananacock:Quote:
Originally Posted by abostonboy
YOU were banned????Quote:
Originally Posted by gaybucks_chip
oh god that means it has gotten even worse. I love Mark but I completely stopped posting there months ago due to the total lack of any sort of control. When it when from freedom to free for all I decided to completely disassociate from it, and I don't even lurk to see what is going on.
That about sums it up. Of all people to get banned, it was Chip.:uhoh:Quote:
Originally Posted by chadknowslaw
I think I am next. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by deanb
It doesn't take much. Have they offered to allow Chip back? I know people have been banned for much worse over there, and are back posting again within an hour!Quote:
Originally Posted by abostonboy
That thread too has disappeared :kickcan:Quote:
Originally Posted by deanb
Methinks Mark is a great person but from what you guys have told me he has absolutely no control over his business.
That is too bad. His niceness and inability to kick someone's ass that desperately deserves it could be his greatest weakness.
JP need to get laid.
Fuck it. I need to get some stuff of my chest as their are facts that people just don't know or understand.
1. MANY of us, Chip included, chose to post on GMS when it was a ghost town. At that time, JP may have made 10 posts a week. He was much too busy pimping his shit on gfy. We chose it and this board as places we could meet people and form friendships and do business. For some of us it was long before Mark took over the board.
2. GMS has always given freedom in the posts you can make. Some say too much. Some, including myself may have pressed it to the limit. But, we were allowed to by the moderators. That was the "personality" of the board.
3. Censorship has always been tolerated at GMS, however. When Sam mentioned that some big companies were buying content from content producers that solicited minors, he got that post and all other posts in the thread removed because he was "scared" and ask Mark to remove them. This was HARDLY the first time thread got censored after a webmaster decided that what he posted he didn't like in the open. So, censorship is NOTHING new at all. Just be on the good with one of the mods and anything that you say or is said against you can be removed. IF and only IF you are one of the mods "favorites."
4. Why was Chip banned? Simple. He is a mod at GWW and JP/Mark feel his goal was to not make GMS succeed. PLAN AND SIMPLE. That's from the owner's mouth.
5. Why do threads disappear? For two reasons -
1. You say something an later regret it and if you are "in" with the mods, they will "take care of you."
2. You say something that the mods don't like. Remember JP's blubbercunt is "sacred shit".
6. Threads on censorship getting censored? What do you expect! It's perfectly ok for two people to tear each other apart in 5 pages of bs about "can you use a first name or not" with all types of personal attacks. But, try and make a comment in a thread that the owner starts and push for business over bullshit and not only do you get banned, but the thread gets censored. The title of the thread was "Should GMS be censorsed!".
Let me bang my head one more time to try and understand.
GMS should not be censored. The name should be changed to blubbercunt.com
That thread is now gone. As is the thread stating that he got banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by deanb
That is really pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by abostonboy
First, it's pathetic that Mark didn't have the courage to respond to any of my messages and tell me this himself rather than gossip to others.
Second, all of my messages bitching about the lack of moderation was so GMS WOULD continue to grow and become a strong community. If I wanted to see it go into the crapper, I would have shut up and let JP's policies alienate everyone. Just because I'm a moderator for Lee doesn't mean I don't want other healthy webmaster communities, and I think that anyone who knows me understands that. Lee has never said a word to me about my postings at GMS, nor has he ever asked me to influence anyone, post anything, or not post anything, either at GWW or GMS.
Third, if there's a policy that mods at other boards should not post at GMS, or have to be more careful about what they say, or don't get any warnings before being banned, then DEVELOP A WRITTEN POLICY THAT STATES THAT. Arbitrary policies and enforcement help no one, not even the arbitrary policy setter. If there are rules, then people can read and understand them and stay within the rules. This isn't rocket science.
I just asked for my account to be deleted. But before I did JP did in fact state that as a reason in a post.
My account is deleted so I can't quote it for you.
Glad to be gone from there. That is for damn sure.