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02-29-2008, 02:04 AM
abostonboy

How many sites do this...

"The CCBill powered affiliate program states, both on their web site and in the Email I received, they pay 50% of ALL joins and rebills (50% taken after credit card processing fee). After signing up I checked this from the CCBill admin panel and discovered the following:

* For recurring subscriptions - payments for rebills end after 2 rebills
* For trail subscriptions - payments for rebills end after 1 rebill.
"

http://www.ingayporn.com/new-gay-reality-porn-site.html

It just "seems" weird. Are other sites doing it as well?
02-29-2008, 03:18 AM
basschick

i have seen other sites that pay for only a limited number of rebills, and a couple don't pay for any. i always read the stuff in ccbill after signing up before i put up any links...
03-02-2008, 04:46 PM
SluggerJ

I should've paid more attention. I was plugging a site for about 2 months and stopped because I couldn't get past breaking even. Now I see why. Turns out their payments are set to "Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills" on both trials and recurring.

Shanked! I won't make that mistake again.

HotOlderMale and Tony & Cam are the two sites in my CCBill account that are set to "zero" rebills. Good thing I didn't run them for long.
03-02-2008, 05:23 PM
Dzinerbear

Quote:

Originally Posted by SluggerJ

HotOlderMale and Tony & Cam are the two sites in my CCBill account that are set to "zero" rebills. Good thing I didn't run them for long.

Are you sure about this? I get piles of rebills for HOM and a few from Bareback Masters. Maybe this is a new policy?

Michael
03-02-2008, 06:24 PM
basschick

as i recall, ccbill has this set to default. program owners who aren't aware of that might not change it as they don't even know it's there.
03-02-2008, 07:22 PM
SluggerJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzinerbear

Are you sure about this? I get piles of rebills for HOM and a few from Bareback Masters. Maybe this is a new policy?

Michael

I don't know what the real story is, but yes that's what my account is saying. Trials and Recurring Subs both say "Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills". I would post screenshots but I don't have enough posts yet. :)

I did get a few rebills from T&C for a little while. Maybe something changed.
03-02-2008, 08:04 PM
Seth

I'm really glad you brought this topic up. I'm setting aside some time this week to weed out those sites that have their program set to zero rebills.

I have to admit I usually only look at the payout percentage on the summary screen to make sure it matches what they are advertising.

I really wish CCBill had the rebill info on the summary screen. With the number of CCBill sites I promote, going into each site's details page on any kind of regular basis is going to be a real pain.
03-02-2008, 08:21 PM
basschick

webmasters are getting paid for my rebills - i just asked some - and mine says zero, too. yet these options in my ccbill account are very definitely both checked NO

Pay for Initial Sale
Sets whether or not the payments should be continued after a specified number of times. Select Yes to display the Stop After Rebill Number Text Box, which allows you to enter a number where you want to stop the rebill payments. Select No to allow the rebill to payout continually.

Stop Paying Rebills
Sets whether or not the payments should be continued after a specified number of times. Select Yes to display the Stop After Rebill Number Text Box, which allows you to enter a number where you want to stop the rebill payments. Select No to allow the rebill to payout continually.

so i think that zero thing is a ccbill display error or something... will be talking to ccbill about this and will let you know what they say.
03-02-2008, 09:22 PM
putosperros

That's why I was asking if condom cash was a pps or revshare program
03-02-2008, 09:24 PM
putosperros

Is it supposed to be like this
03-02-2008, 09:43 PM
Lee

The 0 (Zero) is paying on all rebills, this has been discussed many times over the years on a variety of message boards.

Its just CCBills way of setting the default value to something other than 99.

I believe there are even archived topics on this on GWW.

Regards,

Lee
03-02-2008, 09:43 PM
SluggerJ

Puto, that's fine; since they're a flat $20 PPS and the rebills don't apply.
03-02-2008, 09:44 PM
Lee

Quote:

Originally Posted by SluggerJ

That's fine; since they're a flat $20 PPS the rebills don't apply.

Yes they do.

You make $20 for each new sale and rebill that you generate during the month.

Regards,

Lee
03-02-2008, 09:50 PM
SluggerJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee

Yes they do.

You make $20 for each new sale and rebill that you generate during the month.

Regards,

Lee

Oh really? Interesting.
03-02-2008, 09:52 PM
Lee

I just asked Mark to post in this thread to clarify the Zero Rebills issue to clear things up so that us program owners arent made out to be cheating our affiliates :)

Regards,

Lee
03-02-2008, 09:54 PM
basschick

as i look further into this, i see that one of my tracking accounts for my own program says zero and the others say unlimited - and these are for the same program :-/
03-02-2008, 09:54 PM
corvett

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee

The 0 (Zero) is paying on all rebills, this has been discussed many times over the years on a variety of message boards.

Its just CCBills way of setting the default value to something other than 99.

I believe there are even archived topics on this on GWW.

Regards,

Lee

lee is right
03-02-2008, 09:59 PM
putosperros

well
working men movie cash
shows unlimited
03-02-2008, 10:00 PM
Lee

Quote:

Originally Posted by putosperros

well
working men movie cash
shows unlimited

Id guess because they are paying you a percentage of the total sale, not a fixed payout for sales and rebills.

Regards,

Lee
03-02-2008, 11:35 PM
abostonboy

I didn't mean to cause any drama. Bit can some clarify what guyshookingup actually pays? There seems to be confusion.
03-03-2008, 07:38 AM
Dzinerbear

Quote:

Originally Posted by SluggerJ

I don't know what the real story is, but yes that's what my account is saying. Trials and Recurring Subs both say "Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills". I would post screenshots but I don't have enough posts yet. :)

Why don't you try emailing both programs and asking them to change it? HOM especially is paying me a lot of rebills, so they are open to the concept. And if they're getting nothing from you now because you're not promoting them, then I think they'd prefer to have you on board.

Michael
03-03-2008, 07:48 AM
basschick

my program says that for one of my own tracking accounts, but it does send rebill checks. zero apparently doesn't mean zero.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzinerbear

Why don't you try emailing both programs and asking them to change it? HOM especially is paying me a lot of rebills, so they are open to the concept. And if they're getting nothing from you now because you're not promoting them, then I think they'd prefer to have you on board.

Michael
03-03-2008, 08:16 PM
guyshookingup

Quote:

Originally Posted by abostonboy

"The CCBill powered affiliate program states, both on their web site and in the Email I received, they pay 50% of ALL joins and rebills (50% taken after credit card processing fee). After signing up I checked this from the CCBill admin panel and discovered the following:

* For recurring subscriptions - payments for rebills end after 2 rebills
* For trail subscriptions - payments for rebills end after 1 rebill.
"

It just "seems" weird. Are other sites doing it as well?

We were just made aware of this. When setting up our affiliate program there is a miscommunication between our development team and CC Bill regarding paying rebills.
We spoke with CC Bill and they guided us through the setup, it is now fixed and all rebills are paid for the life of the subscription. It was not our intention to stop paying rebills after a certain number. Even though we are new at this we know that our affiliates are the life blood of the site as well as our partners.
Regards,
GuysHookingUp
03-03-2008, 08:43 PM
abostonboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by guyshookingup

We were just made aware of this. When setting up our affiliate program there is a miscommunication between our development team and CC Bill regarding paying rebills.
We spoke with CC Bill and they guided us through the setup, it is now fixed and all rebills are paid for the life of the subscription. It was not our intention to stop paying rebills after a certain number. Even though we are new at this we know that our affiliates are the life blood of the site as well as our partners.
Regards,
GuysHookingUp

Thank you for the clarification. Aren't you the same guys that Run New York Straight Men? Would hardly say you guys are new at running paysites?
03-03-2008, 09:33 PM
guyshookingup

No we are not, we are totally separate. One of the partners made a financial investment for our start up, but is not involved in the running of our site.
03-04-2008, 01:02 AM
abostonboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by guyshookingup

No we are not, we are totally separate. One of the partners made a financial investment for our start up, but is not involved in the running of our site.

Thanks for the clarification. How's Greg doing?
03-04-2008, 02:40 AM
Seth

Quote:

Originally Posted by guyshookingup

...it is now fixed and all rebills are paid for the life of the subscription. It was not our intention to stop paying rebills after a certain number...

I just checked and see the following for GHU Cash:
Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (1) rebills
Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (2) rebills

I think someone said CCBill may be reporting this data incorrectly. Which if true, makes this info useless...
03-04-2008, 11:31 AM
CamCruise

Quote:

Originally Posted by SluggerJ

I should've paid more attention. I was plugging a site for about 2 months and stopped because I couldn't get past breaking even. Now I see why. Turns out their payments are set to "Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills" on both trials and recurring.

Shanked! I won't make that mistake again.

HotOlderMale and Tony & Cam are the two sites in my CCBill account that are set to "zero" rebills. Good thing I didn't run them for long.

Hi Guys and Gals:
Have not been here for a while, because we are the ones that always seem to get "Shanked" here. But had to set this straight.

Our webmasters at TonyandCamCash are getting paid for rebills - I have talked to some of my big traffic senders and they are all getting rebills payed.

I dont know why some say "unlimited" and other say "zero" at CCBill.
I do know that we have ALWAYS payed for ANY and ALL rebills from the customers that you have sent us, AND ALWAYS WILL!!!

Slugger, you have never been "Shanked" by us. Like you said, you just did not promote us.
04-11-2008, 05:44 AM
alexbucks

AlexBoys.com and Freddy18.com Trial Offer

Hi,

We have a Trial Offer available for Alexboys.com and Freddy18.com, so you can give your surfers an easy way to get an cheap access to AlexBoys.com
and Freddy18.com

We pay our webmasters for ALL signups and on trial signups (including all recurring business).

Just use these Linking Codes to work with trial prices:

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...oys.com/trial/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...y18.com/trial/

Best regards
Dennis
04-11-2008, 05:23 PM
hotporn

All of you promoting New York Straight Men:

Payments for Rebills End After: (1) rebills
04-12-2008, 10:21 AM
Matt 26z

Since "zero" is legit, what does the setting look like if the sponsor pays out revshare initial sale, but no rebills at all?

This reporting feature for affiliates is great, but I'd like to see it become more solid. How about a history of rebill setting changes with timestamps? That would prevent them from doing it here and there for short periods of time. I'll bet it's happened before.
04-12-2008, 01:33 PM
abostonboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotporn

All of you promoting New York Straight Men:

Payments for Rebills End After: (1) rebills

Funny how one of the owners of New York Straight Men is a partner in Guys Hooking Up!

I don't think this was an accident on Guys Hooking Up part.
04-12-2008, 06:44 PM
Jim's Porn Pick

I am new in the business and i have about 40 CC BILL accounts for sites that we review. So far only 2 of them show zero rebills. All of the others say unlimited rebills:bunnypancake:

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