Adult editor slammed by school board

[Paco]

I work in the Adult Industry and I'm also the Department Manager of Toys at my local walmart.

evil EVIL girlie ... so, YOU are the one responsible for ALL that TB porn that's been inundating the net!

TB = teddy bear

I could never work in a toy department - I'd be fired every shift, for playing!

[CorbinFisher_BD]

Well I, quite frankly, am disgusted by the notion of some morally arbitrary group of people or organization - especially one supported by my tax dollars!!! - recruiting impressionable youth on high school campuses.

I think it's sick that young, secondary school children are not safe from being pursued by people who would have them put their lives at risk and submit themselves to danger and possibly even lose their lives, all for the petty whims of people with reckless disregard for the sanctity of life, on their own high school campuses.

I believe that we have a responsibility as citizens to do all we can to ensure that secondary school students - as impressionable and as vulnerable as they are - can go to school and be free from the shamelessly aggressive and underhanded recruiting tactics of those that wish to put them in danger.

But enough about federal law requiring any secondary school that receives federal tax dollars to not only allow military recruiters access to high schools but also provide military recruiters with students' names, addresses, and phone numbers...

[marcjacob]

See this touches a nerve with me. I work in the Adult Industry and I'm also the Department Manager of Toys at my local walmart. Its my main source of income, not my writing jobs. If this trend starts and my work finds out about my "envolvement", they could fire me on the spot for being a danger to the children who shop my dept.

If people in the adult industry have to stay away from kids, what happens when they become parents? What do they lose their kids? Or when you enter you have to be sterilized so you don't go and produce children that may be exposed prenatally to porn. Shame on you!

*sigh*

i know you couldnt have got that from me because again I DIDNT SAY THAT.

im talking about schools, not shops and not parenting.

[Sana Chan]

i know you couldnt have got that from me because again I DIDNT SAY THAT.

im talking about schools, not shops and not parenting.

No, I was talking about the article dear. I was doing a "what's next?" type of rant.

[Sana Chan]

evil EVIL girlie ... so, YOU are the one responsible for ALL that TB porn that's been inundating the net!

TB = teddy bear

I could never work in a toy department - I'd be fired every shift, for playing!

Yes yes, the secret is out. Its all my fault! :sunny:

I love working in toys, I get to see parents yell and smack their kids when the start the "But I want a toy mommy!" routine. Ahh....makes me happy.

And yes Paco, I too play with the toys. Teddy Ruxpin has actually be re-released for Xmas this year too!!!

[HotMaleVideos]

To join the "what next?" reaction, my partner works with hip-hop artists all the time. Many have explicit lyrics on their albums.

Since the language is "harmful to minors," should he not be able to work with/around kids and their schools?

The notion is pathetic.

My junior high school Spanish teacher was a Playboy bunny in a previous life. I didn't see her giving anybody lap dances. Especially me.

"Diego! Presta atención!"

[Paco]

SO ... all the adult webmasters (with children) MUST remove their children from private & public schools?

And yes Paco, I too play with the toys. Teddy Ruxpin has actually be re-released for Xmas this year too!!!

*pushing you*
GIT ADDA HE_AH!

you're just teasin'

[Sana Chan]

No way dude! I made a thread about it ealier. I've already sold two.

Good point Paco about the kids. I mean hell, technically they could say a pregnant woman couldn't go near her husband if he's working in the industry because it might expose the fetus to naughty sounds. :shithitfan:

[Lee]

The problem with incidents like this is that people only look at them from one perspective.

I can see how the school board would be concerned with someone working in 'porn' especially because of the fact it is a school board however, on the other hand, i can also look at this from a pornographers viewpoint and understand that this guy should have been able to work wherever he wanted.

The main problem however, like i said, is most pornographers will look at this from their viewpoint and, most parents and members of a school board will only look at it from their viewpoint.

I know personally, i would never consider working anywhere near kids, for any charity or any non-adult / non-profit 'organization' being in the 'adult industry' purely for the reason that its hassle i could do without were it ever to emerge that i did work in porn, people have to realize, there is a certain stigma attached to those of us who work in the industry, whether we like it or not and, i have to say, i dont think that this guy thought about what could potentially happen if it were discovered he worked in the adult industry also, no matter how involved with actual 'porn' he was.

The fact of the matter is, perhaps he should have thought through the potential scenarios that could play out before he started his work on the school board instead of letting them playout after he worked on the school board.. Just my $0.02

Regards,

Lee

[Paco]

For today, I see the world as having more or less only two types of people: a). hypocrites with no tolerance for actions performed by others, and b). logical and tolerant people, whom sit back and look at life, with open eyes, fairly!

So, none of them look at porn? Not a one?

How does that go: do to others what you'd complain about if they did it to you.

Today’s "acronym of the day" is NIMBY.

No way dude! I made a thread about it ealier. I've already sold two.
Good point Paco about the kids. I mean hell, technically they could say a pregnant woman couldn't go near her husband if he's working in the industry because it might expose the fetus to naughty sounds. :shithitfan:

Cool! I may have to buy my niece a couple. What? One is a "back-up".

Correct, the unborn child is TOO impressionable!

[LavenderLounge]

I wrote my comments about the story on my blog, and brought up some points that some of you missed:

http://www.lavenderlounge.com/blog/2...mg_brazil.html

Andy, thanks for bringing this story to our attention.

[Titanmen]

This is absolutley ridiculous! I would suggest that he contact the ACLU (http://www.aclusonoma.org/) and the FSC to see if they can assist him.

BTW- The high school in the article is the one I graduated from in the 1980's!

[Dzinerbear]

I think what many people have failed to mention -- or realize -- is that most of the rest of the world thinks of the porn business as seedy and unseemly, run out of the backs of vans and down dark alleys by thugs and criminals. Rarely do we hear on the news how Joe Blow living in suburbia runs porn sites out of his house and buy content of people performing who enjoy what they do.

Instead, most people are exposed to stories Russian women sold off a sex slaves, children whisked away by pedophiles, and girls forced to work on cams. Combine this with the fact that daily our e-mail boxes are jammed with messages sending us porn that we don't want and encouraging us to get longer, harder, stronger erections or blast bigger cumshots, and it's no wonder the world doesn't hold us in very high regard.

When I first told my parents what I do, they said, "Is it legal." And that's the commonly-held view. Another time I was in a corporate web design meeting and the client asked about doing so-and-so, I said I wouldn't recommend it because it was a common trick of porn sites seeking to get high search engine rankings, and if he proceeded down this path he would probably be penalized by the search engines. After the meeting I was raked over the coals by a woman I was working with for even mentioning the world porn. Her viewpoint was ridiculous and irrational, but unfortunately, she's not alone in her thinking.

Because of this narrow-mindedness and flawed perception there are just some things that I will not do in life. I will not work with children, I will not be a Big Brother or a Boy Scout leader, and I would never seek a publicly elected position. Most of the world thinks we're filthy pigs and that's their opinion. However, it's not worth it to me to put myself in harm's way by volunteering or taking on jobs in which my entire life is potentially going to be criticized and scrutinized. I would be a good Big Brother or Boy Scout leader, but I don't need the hassle when the shit hits the fan.

All you need is for one person to get a bee in their bonnet about something and your life becomes a living hell. It's not worth it for me. If there are others willing to take on this advocacy and deal with the consequences, fine. But I'm not.

Trying to convince people that most of us are law-abiding, hard-working, good people would be like trying to convince Hitler that Jews were not impure, vermin who deserved to be eliminated. In both cases you're not dealing with people who are thinking irrationally about a situation. And you can't fight insanity, not when you have governments, police, religious leaders, lawyers, reporters, and a whole bunch of other people convincing the world that we're all evil to the core.

I know that my inaction doesn't help push our cause ahead, perhaps if I were making millions of dollars, I'd feel differently because I'd have the cash to launch in with public awareness campaigns and deal with all of the legal bullshit. But I don't.

I feel badly for someone who wants to do some good in their community, but are prevented from doing so by this narrow-mindedness, but when it comes to porn, I just don't think you're going to change the minds of most people -- even though a good deal of them jack off to it all of the time.


Cheers,
Michael

[basschick]

this is what i'm trying to tell people! the only reason ANYONE in the u.s. supports adult is they believe in the first amendment. most webmasters, pornstars and other people in the industry resent this, but no one feels the need to work together to change it.

i guess it's laziness and apathy, but as long as the fact there are regular working people in this industry isn't getting to the public, and the public doesn't know about our charitable stuff like the money epoch helps consolidate and sends to help in situations like katrina and tsunamis, no one should be angry that the public doens't know.

if we want people to help recognize us as a legitimate industry, we need to get the word out there regularly through the media. and that means a publicist.

otherwise keep in mind that our neighbors, the clerks at the supermarket, the guy in line at the hardware store all think that it is one thin law between pornography and drug dealing and don't expect that to change without new information being available to the public. oh, silly me - the drug dealing analogy is a best case scenario since most people associate porn with cp thanks to all the hard work from the conservatives.

I think what many people have failed to mention -- or realize -- is that most of the rest of the world thinks of the porn business as seedy and unseemly, run out of the backs of vans and down dark alleys by thugs and criminals. Rarely do we hear on the news how Joe Blow living in suburbia runs porn sites out of his house and buy content of people performing who enjoy what they do.

Instead, most people are exposed to stories Russian women sold off a sex slaves, children whisked away by pedophiles, and girls forced to work on cams. Combine this with the fact that daily our e-mail boxes are jammed with messages sending us porn that we don't want and encouraging us to get longer, harder, stronger erections or blast bigger cumshots, and it's no wonder the world doesn't hold us in very high regard.

When I first told my parents what I do, they said, "Is it legal." And that's the commonly-held view. Another time I was in a corporate web design meeting and the client asked about doing so-and-so, I said I wouldn't recommend it because it was a common trick of porn sites seeking to get high search engine rankings, and if he proceeded down this path he would probably be penalized by the search engines. After the meeting I was raked over the coals by a woman I was working with for even mentioning the world porn. Her viewpoint was ridiculous and irrational, but unfortunately, she's not alone in her thinking.

Because of this narrow-mindedness and flawed perception there are just some things that I will not do in life. I will not work with children, I will not be a Big Brother or a Boy Scout leader, and I would never seek a publicly elected position. Most of the world thinks we're filthy pigs and that's their opinion. However, it's not worth it to me to put myself in harm's way by volunteering or taking on jobs in which my entire life is potentially going to be criticized and scrutinized. I would be a good Big Brother or Boy Scout leader, but I don't need the hassle when the shit hits the fan.

All you need is for one person to get a bee in their bonnet about something and your life becomes a living hell. It's not worth it for me. If there are others willing to take on this advocacy and deal with the consequences, fine. But I'm not.

Trying to convince people that most of us are law-abiding, hard-working, good people would be like trying to convince Hitler that Jews were not impure, vermin who deserved to be eliminated. In both cases you're not dealing with people who are thinking irrationally about a situation. And you can't fight insanity, not when you have governments, police, religious leaders, lawyers, reporters, and a whole bunch of other people convincing the world that we're all evil to the core.

I know that my inaction doesn't help push our cause ahead, perhaps if I were making millions of dollars, I'd feel differently because I'd have the cash to launch in with public awareness campaigns and deal with all of the legal bullshit. But I don't.

I feel badly for someone who wants to do some good in their community, but are prevented from doing so by this narrow-mindedness, but when it comes to porn, I just don't think you're going to change the minds of most people -- even though a good deal of them jack off to it all of the time.


Cheers,
Michael