i used to get galleries posted at askjolene before they started charging for listings - and then i tried buying some listings. you may love them as "no bs" but their traffic sure didn't love anything we were selling. while of course tgps like shemp, persiankitty, thehun and so on were making sales for us every day. gaybeef, gaypicslist, gayeden and so on - you may not like the submission rules but that's what make surfers love those tgps, and that's what makes good traffic.