Im not going to argue my point further, i knew this would be a thread that most americans would disagree strongly with. All i will say is that the "guns dont kill people" argument doesnt wash. The kids in that school wernt killed by a gun walking in on its own. Guns need people to kill other people. There primary purpose is to kill either animals or people. No gun every killed someone alone, its people that kill, the guns are tools. On that basis Iraq should have been allowed nukes, after all, "nuclear weapons dont kill people, the person who presses the button does".