Remember the Cleaning Hunk? Now there are three of them...

[DonMike]

Nah, I just mean I'm still going to love myself no matter what my size and what other people may think. Sure, I'm going to the gym, but that's more out of health reasons. I'm finding that I have been having less energy the more weight I've been gaining and I'd much rather be able to bound out of bed in the morning and happily skip to work rather than drag myself to the 7-11 to get my first cup of artificial stimulant, which is what I do now. LOL!

[XXXWriterDude]

Nah, I just mean I'm still going to love myself no matter what my size and what other people may think. Sure, I'm going to the gym, but that's more out of health reasons. I'm finding that I have been having less energy the more weight I've been gaining and I'd much rather be able to bound out of bed in the morning and happily skip to work rather than drag myself to the 7-11 to get my first cup of artificial stimulant, which is what I do now. LOL!

Honestly, Don, I think people with a LOT of different body types have to have that first cup of coffee in the morning to jumpstart their energy. I'm kinda skinny, and I'm STILL dead tired when I wake up in the mornings!

[DonMike]

Well, yeah. Bad analogy. I'm just talking general health. I have a friend who recently found out he's got adult onset diabetes and looking at my own habits of bad eating and no exercise, I'm worried I might be headed in that direction, or heart problems. Plus, when I was in the hospital last year with my appendix I promised that I would do everything in my power to not end up back there if I could help it. It's one thing to have a health problem you couldn't help, but it's another to know you're there because you just didn't take care of yourself.

[XXXWriterDude]

Well, yeah. Bad analogy. I'm just talking general health. I have a friend who recently found out he's got adult onset diabetes and looking at my own habits of bad eating and no exercise, I'm worried I might be headed in that direction, or heart problems. Plus, when I was in the hospital last year with my appendix I promised that I would do everything in my power to not end up back there if I could help it. It's one thing to have a health problem you couldn't help, but it's another to know you're there because you just didn't take care of yourself.

Yup. Time to get fit! I'll race ya!

[gaybucks_chip]

The whole issue of objectification is for me one of the most uncomfortable things about working in the adult industry. Of course there are the exceptions - the sites with "everyday" guys - but as a whole, both commercial and adult modeling continue to perpetuate the need for perfect bodies, beautiful faces, etc.

I guess for me, when I look at one of our models, I see a handsome guy who will be popular on our site, but I don't see him/her as someone I'd like to date or have sex with. And maybe I'm in the minority as a webmaster in that regard, but I look at it from a practical standpoint; with very rare exceptions, one simply can't have a lot in common with someone who is 25 years younger.

As far as dating or relationships or sex, I would rather have someone who shares a lot of the same viewpoints, interests, and personality traits I do, and yet I see the trend Ken is talking about... not just in LA, but almost everywhere I've been or heard about from our models... that the guy who might be the sweetest, most amazing person gets ignored or shunned because he isn't "beautiful", while the guy who is a self-centered piece of shit but is beautiful gets hit on by everyone.

It would be nice if there were a way to educate people and get them to think about that, but I think that would be a challenge.

[XXXWriterDude]

It would be nice if there were a way to educate people and get them to think about that, but I think that would be a challenge.

Yes, but to me, the challenges we are presented with are the very things that make life worth living--and business worth doing. How else do we grow and evolve if we aren't challenging ourselves?