Quote Originally Posted by XXXWriterDude View Post
The porn business is a business that is built on the foundation of encouraging sexual activity among consenting adults. If a director and one of his models wish to engage in sexual relations during the course of their professional relationship, that's A-OK as far as I'm concerned.
But..

I think that, no matter what the profession, it's highly inappriopriate to coerce someone into having sex in order to get hired. That's fundamentally "wrong" in my book, and it's not behavior that I condone by any stretch of the imagination.
You have me confused Ken LOL

In one paragraph you say 'A-OK' and in a 2nd you say you think this type of behavior is 'wrong', whether in the interview process or the 'employee' status, doesnt matter, its still unprofessional.

You cant have it both ways my friend, you either want to have 'fun' by fucking the talent or you dont, which is it?

But all this talk about "professional" and "unprofessional" conduct in the porn business just sounds like a bunch of people who doth protest TOO LOUD.
Perhaps that is because those who arent professional in their 'porn' dealings are fucking the industry up for the rest of us, ever think about that? 3 years ago, about the same time that the mass newbie influx started, most paysites would retain over 3 months, some as long as 6 months on a regular basis, nowadays we're lucky to see retention past 3 months because the newbies have all but killed web porn by flooding the internet with freebies up the wazoo.

Porn isnt something surfers should be getting for free at link lists or tgps, its something they should be paying for.

We're not offering a public service to distribute free porn to the masses, we're trying to run a business, you dont see companies such as Walmart or BestBuy dropping off 32" plasma TVs along the side of the road willy-nilly in the hopes that maybe 1 out of every 300 people who picks one up will spend some money and actually buy the 51" version.

So many people in the industry are now of the mindset that 'porn' is about 'art' or 'expression' or {shudder} 'free'. It isnt, its about guys (and gals) getting their rocks off to other hot guys and girls and the individuals uploading porn to the web profiting of those surfers wanting to get their rocks off, by giving away as little as possible.

The fact we [the industry] started pandering to the surfers just shows how much we [the industry] have lost track of the bigger picture, again, if you go in to BestBuy and ask for a 32" plasma tv and tell the sales guy you want to take it home, fr as long as you want, and that you *might* come back in a few days to buy the 51" version, he'd laugh at you.. Actually no, he'd probably kick you out of the store and laugh at you, right after he announced your being in the store to everybody.

Throw stones if you like, but at least that's how I see it.
I dont mean to cause offence Ken but, for all intents and purposes, you actually 'arent' in the industry, you dont own free sites, you dont do TGP submission, you dont run paysites, you dont even promote other programs paysites as an affiliate, so you'll forgive me for not putting to much emphasis on what you think about the industry, you are seeing things from a totally different perspective than 99.9% of GWW Community members who 'actually' are 'in' the online porn 'industry'., because we live, breath, and work it pretty much 24/7/365 without paid vacations or weekends off.

There is a vast difference between writing about the business of porn and actually experiencing the business of porn and i guarantee you, if you werent working as a writer at AVN, you simply wouldnt cut it in the 'real' world of porn.

As i say i dont mean to have a go at you, or sound, how did you put it, sanctimonious, but the harsh reality of it is, if you had to work a paysite, submit TGP galleries or build free sites for a living, you'd be broke and out on the street, the same as most other writers and 'webmaster' orientated marketers in the industry would be.

Porn isnt 'art' it isnt about 'expression' its porn, nothing more, nothing less.

99.99% of the general webmaster community need to realize that ultimately, we're not in the business of entertaining people, we're in marketing business, our job is to sell porn to surfers, not give it away for free.

Regards,

Lee