outrageous law suit

[XXXWriterDude]

I think it should be interesting to see what happens as Viagra becomes easier to get. I just saw an item on the news the other day that says that it may become available without a prescription soon. If that happens, it will definitely be interesting to see how that plays out in the gay community. Still, Viagra does not impede one's judgment. I know; I take it on occasion. Prescription drugs are not in the same class as street drugs. Viagra doesn't make anyone bareback. Crystal, on the other hand, might.

[Madame0120]

Well, I don't know about all this, but I do know this: Viagra makes me REALLY horny! LOL!

As IF

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AS IF men NEEDED a lil blue pill to get horny!

$0.02

[XXXWriterDude]

As IF

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AS IF men NEEDED a lil blue pill to get horny!

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OK. This is true. Men are always "horny." But there is sometimes a disconnect between wanting to have sex and being able to perform. I know lots of gay men who have trouble sustaining erections during sex. Not all the time, but here and there. There are a lot of issues surrounding sexuality in the gay male community that prevent gay men from performing to the best of their abilities. It's happened to me on occasion; mostly it's been nerves. Like if I'm dating someone new who I really like and want to impress. I get way anxious over the sex. Just the way I'm wired, I guess. Shit happens. Thank God for Viagra!

[A_DeAngelo]

an excerpt from our stand against Weinstein...

"Many more Gay men’s sexual functioning is affected by HIV medication, HIV illnesses and by anti-Gay stigma them by meth use. Weinstein knows this but doesn’t care because he also knows that in the current sexually repressive climate he can get mileage and money by raising the demons of Gay men having sex and spreading AIDS. So Weinstein feels that his anti-Viagra campaign will create a perfect storm for his aggrandizement and enrichment. He will find that this perfect storm will engulf him in ways that has not anticipated."

Al Benson
for RealPrevention

[A_DeAngelo]

and now, Weinstein is getting the attention he wants...the evening news is airing the story

[hdkbill]

Well, I don't know about all this, but I do know this: Viagra makes me REALLY horny! LOL!

Am I missing something here....of course it makes them horny and the whole purpose of Viagra is for recreational purposes...and, well, porn models.

Those jerks over at the AHCF are a bunch of publicity seeking nuts. Someone needs to straighten them out.

As Tony said, the cost of such a lawsuit takes money out of the pockets of the guys living with HIV/AIDS which is where the money donated to AHCF is supposed to be going. But they would rather pay big salaries to themselves and garner publicity.

Bill

[desslock]

as a recreational drug?

Those ads sure look like it to me.

Should caffeinated beverages like coffee be promoted recreationally? Or sugar? Those are extremely addictive drugs. And they cause all kinds of health problems like diabetes, obesity, etc.

I think it is fascinating - people critical of the Religious Right certainly are free to suggest their opinion of correct or incorrect behaviour.

And how important is the First Amendment to you? Why can't Pfizer talk about their legal products in these kinds of ways. It's honest. Viagra is a pretty darn good recreational drug. Or is Pfizer just different because they have a pot of money?

If you ran a pay porn site and one of your members decided to break their relationship, dump their boyfirend and have lots of risky, promiscuous sex, would you be equally liable as Pfizer is alleged to be in this case?

Steve

[gaybucks_chip]

And how important is the First Amendment to you? Why can't Pfizer talk about their legal products in these kinds of ways. It's honest. Viagra is a pretty darn good recreational drug. Or is Pfizer just different because they have a pot of money?

Welllll... there is a very long, established history about limiting medical and marketing claims, and as far as I know, this was pretty much put to bed years ago as far as First Amendment issues go.

If an item is a prescription drug, and it is marketed for recreational uses, that is a violation of FTC regulations. Without those limitations in effect, you can bet that the makers of Oxycontin, Adderal, and Ritalin (among many others) would be marketing them "for a good time" and encouraging addicts.

I'm not against capitalism -- since I am essentially one -- but I do think that certain curbs and restrictions are appropriate. Limiting the claims made by drugs and supplements is one area that I don't have a problem with the restriction of speech, because it's a pretty well carved out exclusion that has not led to further erosions of the first amendment (at least, as far as I know.)

[Madame0120]

I know lots of gay men who have trouble sustaining erections during sex.

Oh boy! Am I ever glad I married a straight guy! :innocent:

[maxpower]

Oh boy! Am I ever glad I married a straight guy! :innocent:

Ya me too :humble:

[Lee]

I just want to check something here...

This is a thread about Viagra being sued because their product is being used as a recreational drug, even though, the contention of this thread is that Viagra isnt being used as a recreational drug and this lawsuit is frivolous.

But right now we're saying that Viagra is being and should be, used as a recreational drug and they shouldnt be sued because of that?

Yep, that pretty much sums it up, only on GWW could we have people arguing that both sides of a lawsuit wrong, whilst also admitting that both sides of the lawsuit are right LOL

Regards,

Lee

[A_DeAngelo]

I just want to check something here...

This is a thread about Viagra being sued because their product is being used as a recreational drug, even though, the contention of this thread is that Viagra isnt being used as a recreational drug and this lawsuit is frivolous.

But right now we're saying that Viagra is being and should be, used as a recreational drug and they shouldnt be sued because of that?

Yep, that pretty much sums it up, only on GWW could we have people arguing that both sides of a lawsuit wrong, whilst also admitting that both sides of the lawsuit are right LOL

Regards,

Lee

Actually Lee, Weinstein has brought this suit upon Pfizer claiming that the drug company is contributing to the spread of HIV - this is a serious charge

Weinstein argues that the drug (that his clinic prescribes and dispenses) is used for recreational purposes which leads to the spread of HIV

If he (Weinstein) feels so strongly about this, then he should stop having his physicians prescribe the meds and he should stop his pharmacy from dispensing it before he goes as far as to spend tax payers money (yes, we all are supporting this cause) and our valuable time to argue this absurd and unsubstantiated charge... that's all...

[Lee]

to argue this absurd and unsubstantiated charge... that's all...

Perhaps you missed the replies above where people have actually stated they know for a fact that Viagra is being used as a recreational drug?

In which case, i would hardly say the lawsuit was unsubstantiated, or absurd.

Regards,

Lee

[A_DeAngelo]

Perhaps you missed the replies above where people have actually stated they know for a fact that Viagra is being used as a recreational drug?

In which case, i would hardly say the lawsuit was unsubstantiated, or absurd.

Regards,

Lee

no Lee, I have missed nothing... don't be so RUDE!

the point is simple Pfizer is not advertising this medication as a recreational drug

[Lee]

the point is simple Pfizer is not advertising this medication as a recreational drug

As i stated above, they are also not, not advertising it as a recreational drug.

Dont forget, most Americans are dumb, unless they are told not to do something (like the 'warning this cup is hot, dont spill it on yourself' lawsuit several years ago) then they will do it.

The fact that anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that a coffee is hot is neither here nor there, one of the dumb Americans burnt themselves, sued, and McDonalds learnt the hard way that they should have been telling people that coffee was hot.... Even though for most of us, common sense dictates that yes, coffee is in fact hot LOL

Just like common sense tells most of us that prescription drugs shouldnt be abused, or used recreationally, its the dumb ones that dont have common sense we need to watch out for.

We live in a society where anyone can sue anyone, for anything they like, with or without merit to the lawsuit, this guy is just taking advantage of that, in a case which for all intents and purposes, he'll most likely win because Pfizer hasnt been telling people NOT to use Viagra for recreational uses.

Regards,

Lee