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    Dzinerbear
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpower View Post
    People in general are less interested in online content very year, and all we have to look forward is throwing more and more free content at viewers, and them getting less and less willing to pay for anything.
    Your opening statement is head-scratching to say the least. YouTube, iTunes, et al would seem to punch a gigantic hole through your theory.

    I don't think people are any less willing to pay for content. I just redesigned one of my sites two months ago and new sales have jumped 43% -- and that's in the AVS market that is supposedly dead. I think people are tired of paying for crap. They want good quality content, big pictures and videos, weekly (or more) updates; they're less willing to pay for a lot of the product on the Web because it doesn't meet these criteria.

    Cheers
    Michael


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    maxpower
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzinerbear View Post
    Your opening statement is head-scratching to say the least. YouTube, iTunes, et al would seem to punch a gigantic hole through your theory.

    I don't think people are any less willing to pay for content. I just redesigned one of my sites two months ago and new sales have jumped 43% -- and that's in the AVS market that is supposedly dead. I think people are tired of paying for crap. They want good quality content, big pictures and videos, weekly (or more) updates; they're less willing to pay for a lot of the product on the Web because it doesn't meet these criteria.

    Cheers
    Michael
    Like they said below man, those are "sharing" sites I am sure if you give a huge amount of free videos and pirated copies of others films, people will show up to watch them. But are they selling access to these videos NO they sell for the most part things that have nothing to do with the videos at all.

    YouTube is just showing us where we are going and that’s where even lengthy videos are total free and retable available. I am sure if you want to sell genealogy software this kind of crap is good, but it is NOT good for us.

    And look what you are saying viewers want in a AVS site man, that’s insane not to mention Horrifying to me


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    dalimili
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpower View Post
    Like they said below man, those are "sharing" sites I am sure if you give a huge amount of free videos and pirated copies of others films, people will show up to watch them. But are they selling access to these videos NO they sell for the most part things that have nothing to do with the videos at all.

    YouTube is just showing us where we are going and that’s where even lengthy videos are total free and retable available. I am sure if you want to sell genealogy software this kind of crap is good, but it is NOT good for us.

    And look what you are saying viewers want in a AVS site man, that’s insane not to mention Horrifying to me
    Why would it be insane if AVS members want bigger pictures, quality pictures, even exclusive stuff, movies??? They are the same users, that purchase "other" porn... Is it really strange that he wants something for $39,95 a month?


    I don't think so...


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    maxpower
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalimili View Post
    Why would it be insane if AVS members want bigger pictures, quality pictures, even exclusive stuff, movies??? They are the same users, that purchase "other" porn... Is it really strange that he wants something for $39,95 a month?


    I don't think so...
    Because it's devaluing the content, with content like that you do not need AVS at all. This is the regression I am talking about, when Member Site Owner are reduced to AVS sites because viewers think the content is worthless or at least not worth paying more than 24.95 a YEAR for.

    Its such a waste to give AVS members content like that just to get a few bucks a year, all this is going to lead to people then offer the same content for free just get traffic. You do not see a problem with all this, its not rocket science we are talking about, this is basic supply and demand economics


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    Xstr8guy
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpower View Post
    Because it's devaluing the content, with content like that you do not need AVS at all. This is the regression I am talking about, when Member Site Owner are reduced to AVS sites because viewers think the content is worthless or at least not worth paying more than 24.95 a YEAR for.

    Its such a waste to give AVS members content like that just to get a few bucks a year, all this is going to lead to people then offer the same content for free just get traffic. You do not see a problem with all this, its not rocket science we are talking about, this is basic supply and demand economics
    Max, you always forget about premium AVS memberships. After all of the processing fees, I earn more money from selling a Platinum AVS membership than I do a membership to UKnakedmen.com. Imo, earning $20 per Platinum sale for a 300 pic gallery is a good return on my investment.


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    maxpower
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xstr8guy View Post
    Max, you always forget about premium AVS memberships. After all of the processing fees, I earn more money from selling a Platinum AVS membership than I do a membership to UKnakedmen.com. Imo, earning $20 per Platinum sale for a 300 pic gallery is a good return on my investment.
    Ya man its cool to make AVS sites with 300 pics, and maybe a bit of your exclusive stuff to give them a taste, but Not movies, long videos, or large amounts a image content. Making AVS sites 3 times as large as free sites is fine, but providing Member Site content in a AVS sites is not a good use of your content. Just seems stupid to offer 1000’s pics or even 5 minute videos in AVS sites. We need to hold something back for real members sites.


  7. #7
    Xstr8guy
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpower View Post
    We need to hold something back for real members sites.
    The point I'm trying to make is that a Premium AVS site is as valid as a full-scale paysite... at least from the angle of income potential. Why shouldn't I use all exclusive content or a complete 20 video scene to make that sale? $20 is $20.


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