Quote Originally Posted by gaybucks_chip View Post
There are a LOT of invisible giants in the adult industry
Very true.

Quote Originally Posted by basschick View Post
btw, folks - i've said it before but here it is again:
<edit> epoch <edit> it's true - they never focused on smaller programs till recently, although they could always be used by them. but larger prorams have used epoch for years...
I guess time will tell. Seemingly Procom/Epoch suddenly has begun marketing to the smaller paysite owners, especially to the gay community.

Like Microsoft selling a new OS, I will wait a year or two until all bugs are removed... and in my case, recalling starting with IBILL in 1998, and as the company struggled at it's end, the bottom line numbers being askewed, there was a sudden strong sales push. I am not writing or intending by my words that Paycom/Epoch has financial problems. I though question their recent aggressive nature, via members that rarely write, in this forum.

Once again, rest assured, I am not writing, nor claiming that Procom/Epoch has business income problems like IBILL did, thus their reason for starting a strong marketing program to the gay industry.

Some made comments that not enough gay people are employed at CCBILL.

PLEASE. I just want either a phonecall or an email request to have a solution. And for years, within hours, most times minutes... done... finished. Paycom hiring a few gay employees will not make me suddenly loyal.

As for the MASTERCARD discussion. YES.. amazing how all these new regulations were imposed and how important they were at the time. I consider it a TAX of the adult industry.